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Democrats Ramshield

(139 posts)
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 04:10 PM Feb 2014

After the NSA affair, the German government is steering towards a serious confrontation with the US

My Daily Kos diary article:

(Written by an American expat living in the European Union)

German magazine Der Spiegel reports,"Nine months after the NSA affair, the German government is steering towards a serious confrontation with the US"
In the wake of the Snowden affair, whistler blower Edward Snowden revealed that Angela Merkel's telephone had been spied on by the NSA. Please let's understand according to Forbes magazine Angela Merkel as the Chancellor of Germany which has become the richest and most powerful country in the European Union (the number 2 exporting nation in the world) has according to Forbes magazine rated Angela Merkel as the most powerful woman in the world. So as you can well imagine, to reiterate the Snowden revelation that Angela Merkel's phone had allegedly been spied on by the NSA sent shock waves through the capitals of the great social democracies of Western Europe and sent shock waves through the German capital, that if the chancellor's private cell phone had been illegally wiretapped, then no one was safe from an illegal alleged NSA wiretap. The very real anger and humiliation this produced throughout the European Union, which as a population of 500 million people is larger than the population of the US, and whose economy is likewise larger than the US and of course the Euro rivals the US dollar in power. So it is that Europe has taken a very dim view of the NSA alleged spying matter on millions of its citizens, to include the head of the European Union's most powerful country, German chancellor Angela Merkel.

So it is that in the recently published Spiegel article which this diary attempts to review, we see that Germany appears to be on the road to declaring a defacto sort of counter-espionage war against the United States on German soil. This turn of events has alarmed diplomats, scholars and statesmen/statespersons around the world. As such I invite you to give a very careful reading of the review of the Spiegel article whereupon I invite you to read in full for yourself the Spiegel article being reviewed entitled "Striking Back: Germany Considers Counterespionage Against US".


(To read the rest of my diary and its quotes and article links, please click on the link below. Thank you.)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/20/1278992/-After-the-NSA-affair-the-German-government-is-steering-towards-a-serious-confrontation-with-the-US
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After the NSA affair, the German government is steering towards a serious confrontation with the US (Original Post) Democrats Ramshield Feb 2014 OP
The Ugly American Redux. Shame on Obama. Mr. Kerry? Ms. Clinton? Anybody? libdem4life Feb 2014 #1
Democrats Ramshield Diclotican Feb 2014 #2
If Germany is THIS pissed off Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #3
Anyone who feels safer with this spying shit pragmatic_dem Feb 2014 #4

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
2. Democrats Ramshield
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 06:25 PM
Feb 2014

Democrats Ramshield

Probably time - to at least do something about the NSA case - and to make sure it would not happened again - I understand why Chancellor Merkel with her background (she is born in DDR wit all that background it have) is really pissed of by US spying on her phone, that be in a public action, or as a private citizen of germany...

And yes - The Euro zone is bigger than the US, even as the interest of the different parts of EU is as different as the nations itself - and in the background the Shadow of Russia still exist as a challenge as best - or as worst, an enemy...

And by the way - Germany do have expert spies - and I am afraid a counter - espionage war with the US, would give US a few blow the next couple of years - if it ever was to be a reality.. It it not just USA who have spies who are first class - Germany also do have some pretty good agencies who once was fighting against the finest spies from KGB...

I know every nation spies on eatch other in one way or another - but I suspect NSA was doing more than just snooping around, hoping to get their hands on something interesting...

Diclotican

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
3. If Germany is THIS pissed off
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 07:14 PM
Feb 2014

I'm guessing they'll want to go to war once they see what France, Israel and others have been up to...

 

pragmatic_dem

(410 posts)
4. Anyone who feels safer with this spying shit
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 01:19 AM
Feb 2014

should turn in their citizenship and go live in a country that keeps their citizens safe with spying. Like China, Iran, N. Korea or Russia.

You want it? It's all there for you. The poverty, corruption, injustice, income disparity, press censorship; everything a police state has to offer and more.

Go for it. You don't have to defend or apologize for it in the US, its everything you want, all over there just waiting to protect you.

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