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Autumn

(45,055 posts)
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 03:52 PM Apr 2014

No more NSA spying? Sorry, Mr Obama, but that's not true

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http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/mar/30/no-more-nsa-spying-obama-not-true


Last week in the Hague, Barack Obama seemed to have suddenly remembered the oath he swore on his inauguration as president – that stuff about preserving, protecting and defending the constitution of the United States. At any rate, he announced that the NSA would end the "bulk collection" of telephone records and instead would be required to seek a new kind of court order to search data held by telecommunications companies.

This policy change is a tacit admission of what Edward Snowden (and 2001 whistleblower William Binney before him) had been claiming, namely that the warrantless surveillance of US citizens by the NSA and other government agencies does, in fact, violate the constitution of the United States. Obama's announcement looked to some observers as the first crack to appear in the implacable facade of the national surveillance state. This looked promising because, as we know from second world war movies, the first crack is inevitably the harbinger of the eventual total collapse of the dam.

Dream on. The significant thing about Obama's announcement is the two things it left out: surveillance of the internet (as distinct from the telephonic activity of American citizens); and of the rest of the world – that's you and me. So even if Obama succeeds in getting his little policy swerve through Congress, the central capabilities of the national surveillance state will remain in place, untouched and unimpaired.

At the heart of these capabilities is the "bulk collection" (that is, warrantless) collection and storage of communications metadata on an unimaginable scale. Given that metadata in this context is essentially a log of every communicative act that you make in cyberspace – where you went; who you emailed or texted; who emailed or texted you; the URL of every website you visited; a list of every web search you've ever made; and so on – metadata nowadays constitutes information of a very detailed and intimate nature
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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
3. And again, I ask:
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 06:41 PM
Apr 2014

Since nobody is happy with Obama's proposed reforms, why isn't anyone pushing for congress to just defund the NSA?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
5. Oh yeah? Who is your congressperson and what was the response from their office?
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 07:12 PM
Apr 2014

Either way, good on you...Too many people have been giving congress (among others) a free pass on the whole thing...

Autumn

(45,055 posts)
6. My congressman is a lousy republican so you can guess his response. However, Senator Udalls
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 07:33 PM
Apr 2014

views are well known and I have received very positive responses from him. I'm not going to give anyone a pass on this. Not Bush, not Congress, not the Senate and not Obama.

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