Santorum Nostalgic for Abortions "in the Shadows"

[pokerfan]

Rick Santorum fabricates statistics about euthanasia in the US and Netherlands, appears nostalgic for days when abortions "were in the shadows."

Look at what’s happened just in our tolerance for abortion. Fifty years ago…60 years ago, people who did abortions were in the shadows, people who were considered really bad doctors. Now, abortion is something to that is just accepted. […] This is the erosion. And it happens in the medical profession. It happened very fast. And I think Obamacare will lead us down that road.

[kestrel91316]

1. Woot woot!!! Yeah! Take 'em back to the back alleys!!!!

[niyad]

2. ricky, we KNOW you are a heartless, woman-hating thug. it is not necessary to reinforce this

each and every time you open your mouth.

doctors, coat hangers, drano. .

umm, how is "obamacare" going to "lead us down that road" that, according to your previous words, we are already way down? honestly, can you not even construct a coherent paragraph?

[Ecumenist]

3. So, women dying from perforated uteri, haemorrhaging, horrific infections, straight

up murder is preferable to women being able to have safe abortion , even if they're not rich and able to have quiet "procedures"arranged in hospitals or overseas. Why the fuck is any man opining about what happens to another woman's body? If he doesn't like abortion, then he shouldn't have one.

[niyad]

4. that is what we have been telling these idiot male legislators for decades now. sad that we

have to keep doing it.

[saras]

5. It's not that he doesn't like abortion, it's that he likes the scenarios you described.

If abortion is legal, then how does he get to watch those?

[ScottLand]

6. The Dutch euthanize them when we would have just taken out the splinter.

Where does he get all these "facts"? And the people are "ooh"ing and "aw"ing like it's the gospel.

[Botany]

7. 1 out of 10 people in Holland die from euthanasia?

Where the fuck does Rick get his facts?

[pokerfan]

10. out of his ass, most likely

From the comments:

Speaking from the Netherlands; BULLSHIT!!!!! The numbers are fake, and the crap about old people going to hospitals abroad in fear of euthanasia is an insulting lie.

Voluntary euthanasia is strictly regulated and is C.O D. in less than 2% of all deaths.

Thou shalt not bear false witness, Rick!

Wanna see what "abortion in the shadows" does? Just look at Nigaragua, where many women die after illegal abortions. If they survive, they go to jail, and some are even arrested after a miscarriage.

[Botany]

11. I have visited your country twice

3 things

1) almost everybody can speak English

b) lots of bicycles everywhere

iii) great art galleries and nice people too

BTW I did speak w/a few Dutch citizens about "the final out" and they seemed O.K.
with it and did not seem to fear that they would be put down if they visited
their family doctor.

BTW part 2 what are the real #s for people who use euthanasia in the Netherlands?

[pokerfan]

12. That was a comment someone posted on the Youtube page

but wiki has a whole article on Euthanasia in the Netherlands

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia_in_the_Netherlands

Sounds like they have a bunch of safeguards in place:

Termination of Life on Request and Assisted Suicide (Review Procedures) Act took effect on April 1, 2002. It legalizes euthanasia and physician assisted suicide in very specific cases, under very specific circumstances.[3] The law was proposed by Els Borst, the D66 minister of Health. The procedures codified in the law had been a convention of the Dutch medical community for over twenty years.

The law allows medical review board to suspend prosecution of doctors who performed euthanasia when each of the following conditions is fulfilled:

the patient's suffering is unbearable with no prospect of improvement
the patient's request for euthanasia must be voluntary and persist over time (the request cannot be granted when under the influence of others, psychological illness or drugs)
the patient must be fully aware of his/her condition, prospects and options
there must be consultation with at least one other independent doctor who needs to confirm the conditions mentioned above
the death must be carried out in a medically appropriate fashion by the doctor or patient, in which case the doctor must be present
the patient is at least 12 years old (patients between 12 and 16 years of age require the consent of their parents)

The doctor must also report the cause of death to the municipal coroner in accordance with the relevant provisions of the Burial and Cremation Act. A regional review committee assesses whether a case of termination of life on request or assisted suicide complies with the due care criteria. Depending on its findings, the case will either be closed or, if the conditions are not met brought to the attention of the Public Prosecutor. Finally, the legislation offers an explicit recognition of the validity of a written declaration of will of the patient regarding euthanasia (a "euthanasia directive&quot . Such declarations can be used when a patient is in a coma or otherwise unable to state if they wish to be euthanized.

The numbers:

In 2010 there were 3136 cases reported of a physician assisting the death of a patient. Split out it were 2910 cases of "end of life on request", 182 cases of assisted suicide and in 44 cases it was a combination.

[47of74]

8. Excuse me while...

I go, print this out, and do what it says...

[Demoiselle]

9. Do ya think he'll make sure every woman has a coat hanger?

Sorry if I offended anyone....But what a motherfucking dick he is!

[Control-Z]

13. Yeah, wasn't it neat, Santorum?

"Fifty years ago…60 years ago, people who did abortions were in the shadows, people who were considered really bad doctors."

..and women died.

[ncteechur]

14. Rick, why do you hate women?

[Turbineguy]

15. What a total crock of shit!

The problem with getting euthanized in the Netherlands is finding a Doctor willing to do it.

[Hissyspit]

16. Totalitarian piece of shit

Nostalgic for Communist Romania, Rick?