Fox News Guest: 'Reason' Led to The Holocaust

[celtics23]

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[trotsky]

1. Hell, even some DUers think that.

Those who fail to learn from the past...

[Cirque du So-What]

2. What transpires during this video:

for those who don't want to actually listen to these horrible people:

Fox News host Steve Doocy asked Penny Nance, CEO of the Christian activist group Concerned Women for America, if she could make any sense out of why Charlotte Mayor Anthony Foxx would proclaim May 2 as both a “Day of Prayer” and a “Day of Reason.”

“He comes from North Carolina, which has the 7th highest church attendance, clearly he’s not running for re-election since he’s up for transportation secretary,” she opined. “You know, G. K. Chesterton said that the Doctrine of Original Sin is the only one which we have 3,000 years of empirical evidence to back up. Clearly, we need faith as a component and it’s just silly for us to say otherwise.”

“You know, the Age of Enlightenment and Reason gave way to moral relativism. And moral relativism is what led us all the way down the dark path to the Holocaust… Dark periods of history is what we arrive at when we leave God out of the equation.”

Foxx, who attends Friendship Missionary Baptist Church in Charlotte, first declared a Day of Reason in 2012 at the request of Charlotte Atheists & Agnostics.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/02/fox-news-guest-scientific-enlightenment-and-reason-led-to-the-holocaust/

[Half-Century Man]

5. What?

"Original sin" has empirical evidence???? Do she understand what "empirical" means? Does she know GK Chesterton is very biased in his writings and definitely had an agenda.

[Cirque du So-What]

6. I never claimed that she made any sense

I'm only interested in her nonsensical rant from the standpoint of keeping track of what the 'religious' right has up their sleeve in an attempt to bash secular humanism. Just another convoluted argument connecting Charles Darwin with Adolph Hitler, with a side of Margaret Sanger AFAIC. Otherwise, this person is on my 'pay no mind' list.

[Half-Century Man]

7. I wasn't hacken at you...

Do you know how to actually let this "individual" know how we might feel.

[Cirque du So-What]

8. Oh, I know you weren't

However, I'm not interested in letting her know how I feel. It's like wrestling with a pig; you get dirty and the pig likes it.

[Half-Century Man]

9. HEH

or "Never try to teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time and annoys the pig".

[Cirque du So-What]

10. If I thought there was even a remote possibility

that engaging this person in debate would annoy her, I would be working on rebuttal full-time. That's not likely the case, however.

[blackspade]

13. Her basic premise is incorrect.

so-called 'moral relativism' is actually a product of the Counter-Enlightenment which was itself an attempt to prop up the European aristocracy in the face of Enlightenment social movements. Neither movement led to the Holocaust in a direct way, but I would be more likely to associate it more with the Counter-Enlightenment for its tradition of racism.

And her bullshit on original sin is truly baseless. The 'Dark Ages' were a product of rampant theology and rigid social structures that came out of the post-Roman era. Roman Christianity was ascendent, with pogroms, burning, the inquisition, etc.

Isn't it so odd that actual history blows huge holes through these idiots' arguments?

[bunnies]

3. thats Palin levels of teh stoopid right there.

Does she *really* think she makes a reasoned, logical argument? And how does anyone listening to her not laugh in her face?

[radicalliberal]

4. I guess centuries of persecution by Catholics and even Protestants (such as Martin Luther) . . .

. . . had nothing to do with it? Let's be honest for a change!

By the way, the original "religious right" was the Ku Klux Klan.

[Cirque du So-What]

11. I believe it goes back much farther than that

The Inquisition, for example, was highly reactionary. I'm sure other, older examples could be cited as well.

[amb123]

12. Concerned Women for America = Concerned Women Who Render Blind, Unquestioning Obedience

to God-Ordained Male Authority for America.