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bunnies

(15,859 posts)
1. This heartless asshole wants to prevent children for getting aid...
Tue May 7, 2013, 12:27 PM
May 2013

because their parents arent citizens? Fuck it. Let let those dirty anchor babies die in the streets. Right Paul? Asshole.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
18. Paul Ryan by Charles P. Pierce in Esquire:
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 03:46 PM
Jun 2013

Last edited Sun Jun 9, 2013, 05:15 PM - Edit history (1)

He is a smiling, aw-shucks murderer of opportunity, a creator of dystopias in which he never will have to live.




marble falls

(57,063 posts)
4. Hmmmm.... wonder why "anchor babies" is a slur .....
Tue May 7, 2013, 01:11 PM
May 2013

how do you feel about immigration - documented or not? Haven't you heard all the racist rants the Teabillies and Teapublicans wrapped around "anchor babies"?

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
7. Racism is full of euphenisms. Seeming to be reasonable or civil is ....
Tue May 7, 2013, 01:34 PM
May 2013

how they draw reasonable and civil people into giving them credence. If Ryan said "keep Mexican babies from being citizens", you'd be outraged. Because "anchor babies" sounds like non racist, reasonable folks will be more likely to give him a listen. Like the difference between David Duke and the the Grand Dragon.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
8. You are correct about some of this. It has a lot to do with personal philosophies.
Tue May 7, 2013, 01:40 PM
May 2013

I am very slow to call someone a racist because that requires knowledge of what is in their heart, knowledge of their personal motivations. It is not difficult, however, to identify racist language, but I do not see "anchor baby" in that category. The reality is that a child born in the US is, indeed, a US citizen and creates an anchor for illegal immigrants. That's reality. How one views that reality or talks about is what sets the racist apart from those simply analyzing the situation.

Is Paul Ryan a racist? I don't know. Are his immigration policies harsh and heartless? Yes.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
9. Racists are cruel and heartless. Is his imigration reforms based on an individual's ...
Tue May 7, 2013, 01:50 PM
May 2013

race, nationality, religion? In my mind, he quacks the quack and waddles the waddle.
he a duck. After all they only talk about Mexican babies and Mexican immigration.

Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #2)

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
3. First thing Ryan knows has to happen: 'You gotta get the state legislatures RED.'
Tue May 7, 2013, 01:06 PM
May 2013
And some still say there's no difference between parties, huh?

Ryan sure thinks so, and wants those state legislatures to ratify an amendment to end birth citizenship.

He doesn't want to ratify the ERA, or end the electoral game of Citizen United. Unlike the Democratic Party, he has no interest in extending rights.

No, he wants to deny voting and other rights to people born here. The rights that his ancestors were given. Anyone who thinks when that line is crossed it will end there, is a fool.

After that they'll go after the women's vote, the non-property owner's vote, and finally get back to the pre-Civil War way of voting. No social mobility, no right to vote to change policies that effect lives.

They've already proven their intent to disenfranchise the poor, elderly, disabled and all minorities. It won't stop there, so we have to stop them from dragging this country backward.



midnight

(26,624 posts)
12. I'm not sure he is being voted in as much as he is being rigged in....
Tue May 7, 2013, 02:21 PM
May 2013

(in between 13-14 mins Kevin Kennedy admits that the GAB has no software programmers capable of reading the code used in election machine software and contracts with the DOA.)

At around 4:30 they returned, followed by several other concerned citizens, and refused to leave until receiving an official statement.

In the statement left at the office, they asked for information on which counties had election software written by the DOA and who the people were writing the software. By watching the entire video you draw two conclusions. One, some counties use software from the vendor, others the DOA. And two, the software written for Kathy Nickolaus which was formerly thought to be written by GAB, was actually written by DOA.

“Mike Huebsch is the Secretary of the DOA. He is also former GOP leader and ALEC leader. It doesn’t take a PhD to see the conflict of interest in allowing any department run by such a highly partisan official anywhere near our election systems or software,” said Ryan, who is also Executive Director of Defending Wisconsin PAC. “The citizens deserve to know to what extent the DOA works on our election systems and software. It saddens me to see how far downhill our elections will go. But elections are the cornerstone of our Democracy and that is why we are not leaving until we get our answers.”
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/08/31/wisconsin-wire-new-break-in-election-integrity-revealed-protesters-demand-explanation/

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
15. aahhhh
Tue May 7, 2013, 03:36 PM
May 2013

given the rife electoral corruption since 2000 and especial these last two, I am not surprised.

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