Pic Of The Moment: When It Comes To The Truth, Democrats And Republicans Live On Different Planets

[EarlG]

Politifact: Republicans lie three times more than Democrats

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[siligut]

1. But Republicans actually believe their lies 44% of the time

And the other 66% of the time, they believe they answer to a higher truth.

[dsharp88]

2. And as Rachel Maddow consistently points out, Politifact can be inaccurate w/liberal statements

Time and time again Politifact has taken empirical, provable truths by liberals and called them half-truths or even false. In reality their 55-11 interpretation may be more like 60-5.

[station agent]

3. This is a "conservative" estimate (n/t)

[DallasNE]

8. This Is The Same Outfit

That said that the Jonathan Karl story using doctored emails was true because the Republican source was a simple transcription error and the pushback by the Obama administration was what was false. They also are famous for paraphrasing what was said and then fact checking the paraphrase rather than what was actually said. They are, in short, unreliable at best.

[ErikJ]

13. It might be to make them seem more fair and credible

It doesnt seem Politifact is a corporate media org. They may have to try to try to appear more un-biased though as they might be partly dependent on donations from RW corporations ... like NPR does.

Wikipedia:
Tampa Bay Times' Politifact is published by the Times Publishing Company, which is owned by The Poynter Institute for Media Studies, a nonprofit journalism school directly adjacent to the University of South Florida St. Petersburg campus.

[Initech]

4. I love how the Republicans are screaming about Benghazi but don't know where it is.

[ErikJ]

5. From Politifact today: Michele Bachmann and the Truth-O-Meter

Michele Bachmann and the Truth-O-Meter
By Angie Drobnic Holan
Published on Wednesday, May 29th, 2013 at 11:32 a.m.

We've been fact-checking Michele Bachmann since 2009.

PolitiFact's staff woke up to shocking news on Wednesday: U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., has decided not to run for re-election.

Bachmann, a tea party favorite, had a knack for making eyebrow-raising statements that the media loved to quote. Sometimes, though, those statements veered away from verifiable fact.

Take, for instance, our first fact-check of Bachmann, back in 2009. She issued a press release claiming that then-Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner was considering abandoning the U.S. dollar. "Bachmann Demands Truth: Will Obama Administration Abandon Dollar for a Multi-National Currency?" We rated the claim False.

Bachmann later made opposing President Barack Obama's health care law one of her signature issues. She said the law banned private health insurance after a "date certain," even naming the page number of the bill that contained the clause. We checked page 92, though, and found Bachmann was wrong. Pants on Fire!

She had a remarkable streak: Her first 13 ratings were False or Pants on Fire.

Bachmann went on to compete in the 2012 Republican primary for president. She earned her first True rating for a statement she made during a 2011 debate that then-Sen. Obama "refused to raise the debt ceiling because he said President Bush had failed in leadership."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/may/29/michele-bachmann-truth-o-meter-politifact/

[Jamaal510]

6. I'm probably nitpicking,

but I'm curious about the 18% and the 11% numbers. What has the GOP told the truth about, and what specifically have Democrats lied about?

[DallasNE]

9. Keep In Mind

That this outfit often paraphrases what was said and then fact checks the paraphrase rather than what was actually said. More often than not the paraphrasing changes the meaning of what was actually said, especially when viewing the context of the statement. Like you, I think the numbers are suspect based on their poor track record as a fact checker.

[tclambert]

12. Who fact checks the fact checkers?

as Juvenal used to say, or something like it.

[louis-t]

7. Repugs only tell the truth by accident.

And then it's usually stuff like "it was raining when I left Capitol Hill yesterday....."

[Demeter]

10. What was the rest?

Poltroonery, flummery and hot air?

[ErikJ]

11. And 95% of their Pants-on-Fire ratings are by Republicans!

Here's just the first 7 of their pg.1 of their Pants on Fire lies. It seems like almost all the P.O.F. lies are by Republicans. No shock there.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/rulings/pants-fire/

Michele Bachmann
The IRS is going to be "in charge" of "a huge national database" on health care that will include Americans’ "personal, intimate, most close-to-the-vest-secrets."

"Scientists tell us that we could have a cure in 10 years for Alzheimer's" were it not for "overzealous regulators, excessive taxation and greedy litigators."

Of every "three dollars in food stamps for the needy, seven dollars in salaries and pensions (go to) the bureaucrats who are supposed to be taking care of the poor."
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"There's no plan from Senate Democrats or the White House to replace the sequester."

An Obama campaign tactic for rallying voters is to "offer them cell phones."

Says Barack Obama "sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China" at the cost of American jobs.

Says Barack Obama began his presidency "with an apology tour."

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[jimlup]

14. Add to this of course that politifact bends over backwards ...

To make the republicans look like they don't always lie.

The rules they apply to democratic statements verses republican statements are quite different.

[DallasNE]

17. This Is The One That Really Got Me

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/page/297449_WAPOs_Glenn_Kessler_Gives_Thre

[Chakab]

15. The Republicans are much worse than that.

Look up some of the segments that Maddow has done on Politifact. They go out of their way to not claim that obvious lies from Republicans are completely false in order to seem to "neutral."

[BlueJazz]

16. Being a person who goes into people's houses (Computer tech), I seldom...I repeat..

..SELDOM hear republicans get their facts straight. I've heard lines from repugs that sound like they pulled them from their ass.
I've almost cracked up a few times when they "State facts"

I usually think to myself.."OMG, and these people vote".


Do I hear Democrats get their fact wrong ?..Yep, about 1 out of 9 times.

[Martin Eden]

18. Truth has a Liberal Bias

But Republicans will say Politifact does.

[bananas]

19. Those look like Christmas ornaments.

Last edited Thu May 30, 2013, 09:01 PM - Edit history (1)

I thought it was an ad for Christmas in July.

edit to add an example:

[Major Hogwash]

20. Heavens to murgatroid, ain't it the truth, ain't it the truth.

Exit . . stage left.