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EarlG

(21,935 posts)
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 12:56 PM Aug 2013

Pic Of The Moment: Newt Gingrich: Republican Party Has No Alternative To Obamacare



Newt Gingrich: Republicans Rip Obamacare, but Have 'Zero Answer' for Alternatives


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Pic Of The Moment: Newt Gingrich: Republican Party Has No Alternative To Obamacare (Original Post) EarlG Aug 2013 OP
. tk2kewl Aug 2013 #1
Fucking asshole hypocrite STARTED it with his "Word List".... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #2
Don't forget the Contract on America. Baitball Blogger Aug 2013 #4
the Contract was all aimed at public land grabs & free dumping for corporate polluters wordpix Aug 2013 #43
Yea, I suspect his motive to say these things has more to do with getting repugs elected gtar100 Aug 2013 #6
He doesn't CARE about "ordinary people" and considers them to be easily led sheep. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #17
His motive for saying these things is to remind the other players in the Republican party that... JVS Aug 2013 #30
+1... IthinkThereforeIAM Aug 2013 #23
Sweet God in Heaven - that fucker gingrich STARTED all this. It all traces back to him! calimary Aug 2013 #28
The Pigman used to talk about Newt like he was already the President.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #31
A Republican Speaks Truth! DeSwiss Aug 2013 #3
They don't have any because they don't WANT any! DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #5
Typical Newt Blue Idaho Aug 2013 #7
I would love to buy him for what he's worth and sell him for what he thinks he's worth. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #19
this asshole went way off the rails didn't he? blackspade Aug 2013 #8
He's the guy who said "Rails? Where we're going we don't need rails!" n/t JHB Aug 2013 #40
There IS a GOP alternative to Obamacare ... it's called "survival of the richest." Auggie Aug 2013 #9
Nah. It's called Don't Get Sick, But If You Do, Die Quickly. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #56
It's pathetic that so many people on the right seem content in simply bashing. stillwaiting Aug 2013 #10
So the guy who started it is blaming the rest of the party. Scootaloo Aug 2013 #11
Oh, the irony.... The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2013 #12
"your karma just ran over your dogma..." jjewell Aug 2013 #18
It's not original, but thanks! The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2013 #20
The analogy is so clever (last line)! nt caledesi Aug 2013 #53
That Newt is against Obamacare is very telling jmowreader Aug 2013 #13
You get a colony on the moon! And so do you and you... Initech Aug 2013 #14
The Powers To Be are not going to like what he has to say. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #15
I wish someone would fly him to the moon Isoldeblue Aug 2013 #16
Wow! MountainMama Aug 2013 #21
Yes, it's unlikely that he's a voice of reason. Much more probable that... JHB Aug 2013 #39
And when Newt sounds reasonable... KansDem Aug 2013 #57
Literally speaking, Gingrich is exactly right DFW Aug 2013 #22
Because they're braindead and can only utter these words.. Cha Aug 2013 #24
You know what's a funny anagram for ' repeal obamacare'? SummerSnow Aug 2013 #33
Funny. Cha Aug 2013 #42
WOW! calimary Aug 2013 #48
Hypocrite. He started the ball rolling on this GOP attack. tofuandbeer Aug 2013 #25
Gingrich said Obama was an anti-colonialist. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #26
Republicans Jamaal510 Aug 2013 #27
"I'm being totally candid with you." Oh I guess that means he's being truthful, for a change. YOHABLO Aug 2013 #29
They whine bitch complain cry all the time about getting SummerSnow Aug 2013 #32
Newtie, you helped create that culture, babe! Why are you complaining? LongTomH Aug 2013 #34
Dr. Newtenstein created this monster, and now Dr. Newenstein is upset that he (and his ilk) Nanjing to Seoul Aug 2013 #35
You know you're pretty rank when Newt Gingrich gets to call you out. marble falls Aug 2013 #36
Nahh. Newt always pushes the agenda his audience wants to hear... JHB Aug 2013 #38
"You built that"... Newt most of all. JHB Aug 2013 #37
Hey Newt! The repukes learned that from you, dickhead! muntrv Aug 2013 #41
What does Newt think Obama/Romneycare is? SHRED Aug 2013 #44
Obamacare WAS their plan - from the 1990s - Counter-Proposal to "Hillarycare" HumansAndResources Aug 2013 #45
CONs should embrace Obamacare... SHRED Aug 2013 #46
Allright you bastard! Who are you and what have you done with Newt? LOL n/t brewens Aug 2013 #47
I dunno, but MIB is gonna fuck him up when they find out. Kennah Aug 2013 #49
Alright Nutty Newtie. Listen up, cause I got your back. Kennah Aug 2013 #50
He's wrong. They have a clear alternative to Obamacare. Kablooie Aug 2013 #51
Hmmm. Newt running in 2016? Frustratedlady Aug 2013 #52
Interesting, it is right though. Xyzse Aug 2013 #54
Well, the ACA was the old Republican alternative to Hillarycare in the 90s. But now the ACA is ... Ian_rd Aug 2013 #55
Newt has always, been insightful, brilliant and articulate hueymahl Aug 2013 #58
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
2. Fucking asshole hypocrite STARTED it with his "Word List"....
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 01:06 PM
Aug 2013
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4443.htm

This catapulted a whole new crop of morans into the House and Senate who didn't know how to govern but knew how to win elections with negative campaigns. Over time they moved up the ranks until they became leaders in the party.

Baitball Blogger

(46,684 posts)
4. Don't forget the Contract on America.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 01:15 PM
Aug 2013

It encouraged group think and cut down on creative, independent new ideas.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
43. the Contract was all aimed at public land grabs & free dumping for corporate polluters
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 10:36 PM
Aug 2013

"Deregulate" means "allow us to dump whatever we want in the public's common air, land and water. And we will also take over public lands."

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
6. Yea, I suspect his motive to say these things has more to do with getting repugs elected
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 01:47 PM
Aug 2013

and not so much a heartfelt concern for people in need of healthcare.

JVS

(61,935 posts)
30. His motive for saying these things is to remind the other players in the Republican party that...
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 06:16 PM
Aug 2013

they need someone who is intellectually capable of formulating alternative policies instead of just filibustering or refusing to bring things to the floor of the house. Newt might be a piece of shit, but as the Contract on America demonstrates he is a piece of shit capable of formulating a legislative agenda.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,075 posts)
23. +1...
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:16 PM
Aug 2013

... you beat me to the punch! The, "Gingerich Revolution", of 1994, that hate for Clinton fueled, self interest first and statesmanship last credo is what brought us well on our way to this dysfunctional Congress we have today. Yep. Good call, Spitfire of ATJ!

calimary

(81,126 posts)
28. Sweet God in Heaven - that fucker gingrich STARTED all this. It all traces back to him!
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 06:07 PM
Aug 2013

I remember his smug, arrogant, swaggering boast - "I'M a BACK-BENCH BOMB-THROWER!!!" Damn near broke both his arms patting himself on the back.

Whatsa matter, newty? You wanna make nice now?

And he couldn't even get a full sentence out purportedly decrying this bad behavior in others (of course, NOT including himself) by pairing the term "Obama administration" with - I think the word he used was - "disastrous" or some such adjective. STILL throwin' mud, aren't you, asshole? You just can't help yourself, can you? Only problems are, you were widely-credited with your own party's deterioration, AND you had your own girl on the side for whom you actually threw over a perfectly good and loyal wife (you did that a couple of times, actually) WHILE you were trying to impeach Bill Clinton for the whole Monica smear. And far too many people remember all that. We keep score, too. And by now, you're not as capable of fooling as many people. A LOT more people understand you and who and what you are, and know the truth than back in your heyday.

Miserable bastard. Doesn't even know enough to go away.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
31. The Pigman used to talk about Newt like he was already the President....
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 06:21 PM
Aug 2013

He had it all worked out.

Clinton removed from office over Monica.

Gore removed from office over Iced Tea.

Newt being raised up to the office on an ivory column with a star spangled sky behind him.

Everybody could tell Newt was listening to that crap too.

...and believing it.

That became very evident when Clinton had Newt sit in the back of Air Force One and for revenge Newt shut down the government.

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
5. They don't have any because they don't WANT any!
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 01:31 PM
Aug 2013

They have never had any ideas about universal coverage...because they don't give a shit.

They at least paid lip service back when the health care battle with President Clinton was going on...what Bob Dole proposed was almost identical to the ACA, but of course they don't acknowledge that now.

There is such a pervasive mentality that "health care is a privilege, not a right," and the maddening false argument of "it's not in the Constitution" in the Republican Party that they will do all they can to block universal health care.

Of course, there are still their brilliant ideas about "tort reform" and "buying across state lines."

SunSeeker

(51,520 posts)
56. Nah. It's called Don't Get Sick, But If You Do, Die Quickly.
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 10:57 AM
Aug 2013

(One of my favorite Alan Grayson quotes.)

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
10. It's pathetic that so many people on the right seem content in simply bashing.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 02:21 PM
Aug 2013

In my personal life, the right wing Tea Party types bitch and moan about everything, but when I ask them for solutions to the problems they bitch about they have nothing. Absolutely nothing. Well, some of them say "the free market will figure it out". You know if we just get rid of all of those damn regulations. <---- That opinion is tragically misinformed. I never can get them to reconcile how we supposedly have too much regulation, but we also have regulatory capture wherein big business owns our regulatory agencies via the revolving door. They all believe both of these things simultaneously.

They are simply brainwashed, hateful sheep.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
11. So the guy who started it is blaming the rest of the party.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 02:29 PM
Aug 2013

I would call him a hypocrite, but I don't give a shit. So long as Reoublicans are biting hteir own balls, I'm fine with it.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,610 posts)
12. Oh, the irony....
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 02:43 PM
Aug 2013

Newt was one of the prime instigators of all the negative shit the GOPers got up to during the Clinton administration, and now it's come back to bite them on the ass.

Newt, your karma just ran over your dogma.

jmowreader

(50,530 posts)
13. That Newt is against Obamacare is very telling
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 02:48 PM
Aug 2013

Newt was one of the main guys who developed the dual mandate that both Romney and Obama revolve their health plans around.

It's not that there's a mandate in there. I believe that when Romney signed his health plan the Republicans were celebrating because moochers would no longer be able to dump their doctor bills on hard working responsible people. (That Mass is full of Democrats also encouraged them because, y'know, we libruls spend all our money on donations to the Communist Party, pounds of weed and weekly abortions, correct?)

It is that a Democrat's signature is at the bottom of this. I swear on The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster that if Barack Obama were to sign a bill that says meat tastes good and hunting is fun Ted Nugent would become a PETA-supporting vegan.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
15. The Powers To Be are not going to like what he has to say.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 03:21 PM
Aug 2013

What has happened to the Republican Party was by design. Instead of two healthy political parties fighting it out and coming to honest bipartisan solutions, we only have one party that makes the least bit of sense. Much easier for the PTB to control. Most Republicans are too stupid to recognize that they are being used. The Newt might be spilling the beans.

By having only one viable party that's center-right, it shuts out the left which is exactly what the PTB want.

Isoldeblue

(1,135 posts)
16. I wish someone would fly him to the moon
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 03:24 PM
Aug 2013

and leave him the f**k there. The fact that there is no media there will drive Newt nuts without getting any attention................

JHB

(37,157 posts)
39. Yes, it's unlikely that he's a voice of reason. Much more probable that...
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 08:23 PM
Aug 2013

...he's the voice of backers of the "those Tea Party nuts are going to cost us money" persuasion.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
22. Literally speaking, Gingrich is exactly right
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:09 PM
Aug 2013

The Republican Party has "NO" as an alternative to just about everything!

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
33. You know what's a funny anagram for ' repeal obamacare'?
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 06:44 PM
Aug 2013

A MACABRE PAROLEE



That's what the rethugs are.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
27. Republicans
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:29 PM
Aug 2013

can be on the correct side of an issue for once, if they start supporting single-payer as an alternative to Obamacare. But, no. That's asking too much. Paying extra in taxes for guaranteed basic health care is pure evil and takes away our freedumb!

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
32. They whine bitch complain cry all the time about getting
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 06:38 PM
Aug 2013

rid of Obamacare.But they don't shit to replace it with. get the fuckouttahere.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
35. Dr. Newtenstein created this monster, and now Dr. Newenstein is upset that he (and his ilk)
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 07:48 PM
Aug 2013

cannot control his monster.

I recall a saying about matches, playing and getting burned.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
38. Nahh. Newt always pushes the agenda his audience wants to hear...
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 08:20 PM
Aug 2013

...and that audience is not necessarily the one that's in front of him at the time.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
37. "You built that"... Newt most of all.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 08:18 PM
Aug 2013

He built a career on bomb-throwing to cater to voters who loooooved those negatives. He rose to Speakership by pledging to save the good people of Cobb County, Georgia from The People's Republic of Escape From New York. And and nothing fosters imitators like success.

They have negatives, viciousness, and zero answers because it's the party you made, Newt.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
44. What does Newt think Obama/Romneycare is?
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 11:33 PM
Aug 2013

It's a Heritage Foundation model he pushed in 1993. An CON answer to "Hillarycare".
 

HumansAndResources

(229 posts)
45. Obamacare WAS their plan - from the 1990s - Counter-Proposal to "Hillarycare"
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 11:37 PM
Aug 2013

Of course they don't have another "alternative" - how can you do better than using armed govt thugs to FORCE the American people to hand "their money" to the stockholder-billionaires that OWN "our" (sic) Health Care / Insurance companies?

"Pay for my Yacht or the IRS will throw you in a cage." It doesn't get any better than that.

Oh, wait, yes it does. Pretending the plan the Rethugs themselves authored to enrich their paymasters is a "horrible commie agenda" is a "beyond amazing" demonstration of hypocrisy - but a darn effective way to get those on the Left with short-memories to think they "won".

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
46. CONs should embrace Obamacare...
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 11:39 PM
Aug 2013



...it was their idea in 1993, a gift to insurance corporations, and contains no public option.

Kennah

(14,234 posts)
50. Alright Nutty Newtie. Listen up, cause I got your back.
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 02:03 AM
Aug 2013

ObamaCare was a GOP idea. Yeah, it was RomneyCare, but it was ChafeeCare before that. Obama stole y'alls thunder, and there's only one way to even the score.

You have to lead the charge for Universal Healthcare and steal a Democratic idea from the Democratic Party.

They pull a knife. You pull a gun.
They send one of yours to the hospital. You send one of theirs to the morgue.
They steal a GOP idea. You OWN a Democratic idea.

THAT is the Chicago Way.

Kablooie

(18,612 posts)
51. He's wrong. They have a clear alternative to Obamacare.
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 02:22 AM
Aug 2013

Go back to exactly as it was before.
That's a clearly defined alternative.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
52. Hmmm. Newt running in 2016?
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 08:48 AM
Aug 2013

Sounds like he's trying to "stand out" of the Hate Obama crowd by pulling a reverse of his nasty self.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
54. Interesting, it is right though.
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 10:03 AM
Aug 2013

There is no "positive" replacement to ACA that they would support.

A broken clock can be right twice a day.

Ian_rd

(2,124 posts)
55. Well, the ACA was the old Republican alternative to Hillarycare in the 90s. But now the ACA is ...
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 10:06 AM
Aug 2013

... called Obamacare (eeek!) and they haven't come up with anything else.

hueymahl

(2,449 posts)
58. Newt has always, been insightful, brilliant and articulate
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 11:53 AM
Aug 2013

Unfortunately he has also always been evil and manipulative. He has been given many gifts. A moral compass was not one.

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