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Turborama

(22,109 posts)
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:43 AM Aug 2013

Hillary Clinton: "Viewership Of Al Jazeera Is Going Up In The United States Because It's Real News"



"Al Jazeera has been the leader in literally changing people's minds and attitudes. And like it or hate it, it is really effective.

In fact viewership of al Jazeera is going up in the United States because it's real news. You may not agree with it, but you feel like you're getting real news around the clock instead of a million commercials and, you know, arguments between talking heads and the kind of stuff that we do on our news which, you know, is not particularly informative to us, let alone foreigners."
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Hillary Clinton: "Viewership Of Al Jazeera Is Going Up In The United States Because It's Real News" (Original Post) Turborama Aug 2013 OP
O crap DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #1
Well, that wouldn't be very smart of the "liberal crowd". Cha Aug 2013 #4
That's what I call grasping at straws! another_liberal Aug 2013 #7
I do read al Jazzera DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #8
Now the question stands, BillyRibs Aug 2013 #2
She said that a couple of years ago about the original Al Jazeera station that airs in D.C. and... Tx4obama Aug 2013 #3
I tried watching CNN Europe for a while, but it was too boring. DetlefK Aug 2013 #5
That's my Hillary! another_liberal Aug 2013 #6
Who said she's embracing it? Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #9

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
1. O crap
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:46 AM
Aug 2013

considering that a lot of stories are yet to be told about our former SoS conduct, this could get sticky. Her embrace may very well discredit AJZ-TV with the liberal crowd.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
7. That's what I call grasping at straws!
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 07:15 AM
Aug 2013

Liberals will reject something because Hillary Clinton endorses it? Oh sure they will, in some Rush Limbaugh version of reality they will!

Al Jazeera has had some of the best, most in depth coverage of the Egyptian coup and it's aftermath. It is a generally excellent source for any stories about the Middle East. You ought to watch Al Jazeera once in a while, you would learn a great deal.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
8. I do read al Jazzera
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:01 PM
Aug 2013

Long before it became a US network, and indeed, like others, I fear it will wind up being yet another tool of TPTB.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
3. She said that a couple of years ago about the original Al Jazeera station that airs in D.C. and...
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:48 AM
Aug 2013

... a handful of over places in the USA.

I flipped over to the new Al Jazeera America yesterday and I think I like the other one better - but I can't get the original one on my TV, only on the computer live-streaming.



DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
5. I tried watching CNN Europe for a while, but it was too boring.
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 05:32 AM
Aug 2013

A 2-minute-commercial every 5 minutes. And the only program on seemed to be "Business Traveler".

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
6. That's my Hillary!
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 07:07 AM
Aug 2013

With all the Islamophobia going around these days, it took some genuine courage to say that.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
9. Who said she's embracing it?
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:00 PM
Aug 2013

In fact, it doesn't sound to me like she is embracing it. It's "real news -- love it or hate it." By real news, I assume she means empirical facts. How do you love or hate empirical facts? Only propagandists dispute them, not because they are fools, but because they want to make fools out you and me. 2 + 2 = 4 and the Japanese Navy bombed Pearl Harbor on 7 December 1941 are examples of empirical facts. Senator McConnell is an obstructionist is not an empirical fact, but a judgment with a solid grounding in empirical facts, such as how often McConnell, the Senate Republican leader, has instructed Republican senators to vote against the majority's legislative programs or uses senate rules to require a supermajority vote to even bring a particular bill to a final vote. To say Senator McConnell's obstructionism is bad for America is also a value judgment, but it may also be more complicated in that it could involve the application of personal values that do not have any simple empirical facts to support them; one applying a different set of personal value could very well conclude that Senator McConnell's obstructionism is good for America.

Enough digression.

Mrs. Clinton called Al Jazeera "real news." Real news is anathema to most establishmentarians. An informed public is what they fear most. Whatever Mrs. Clinton may be, she appears to me to be most consistently an establishmentarian over anything else.

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