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Why Aren't Conservatives Covering the NSA Scandal? (Original Post) rdubwiley Aug 2013 OP
Because it is a conservative value. Pholus Aug 2013 #1
There probably already exists a database that includes gun purchases. Jerry442 Aug 2013 #6
Actually the FBI, I figure. Pholus Aug 2013 #7
Even the conseratives are nit falling for this crap, got other things on their minds. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #2
Never Interfere With an Enemy scooter rider Aug 2013 #3
They are covering it.. under a different guise. railsback Aug 2013 #4
I know self-proclaimed conservos who are appalled fascisthunter Aug 2013 #5
The main reason is that the love invading our privacy, because they're fascists Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #8

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
1. Because it is a conservative value.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 04:04 PM
Aug 2013

It keeps "those" people in their place so it must be good.

Besides, their guns will protect them -- right?

Hearing about the huge database the NRA compiled without consent made me LMAO when I had the thought that the country is just one National Security Letter away from a national registry of gun owners.

Maybe someone should point that out to them. Then they'll squawk.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
6. There probably already exists a database that includes gun purchases.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 05:30 AM
Aug 2013

And, of course, gun-related items like ammo, accessories, training classes, books, magazines, what have you. Anything purchased with a credit card. "They" probably already have 95% of the benefit of a national gun registry right now.

On edit: Does anyone out there seriously think that if the NSA really wants the NRA's database, they don't have it already?

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
7. Actually the FBI, I figure.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 05:53 AM
Aug 2013

And of course, I am referring to this article:

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/08/21/20119056-the-registry-the-nra-warned-against

I am amused by that particular irony, and simply note that the National Security Letter abuses combined with NRA fascination with big-data approaches to their lobbying form such an interesting combination for potential mayhem.

To me, this is the most direct path to end the overreach of National Security Letters -- if you can frame the issue the right way for the NRA membership they are probably the one set of lobbyists who can overpower the security state.

I intend to start planting that idea out there as much as possible.

On edit: I had forgotten, however, that these guys write their own laws and have already made a law specifically forbidding the collection of such a list by the Feds. I guess remember reading that they had something like that in connection with the Manchin-Toomey bill anyway. Then again, perhaps they goofed and forbade the "creation" of the list instead of just the acquisition.

I just love the idea of those two losers duking it out...if only they could both lose.

 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
4. They are covering it.. under a different guise.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 06:34 PM
Aug 2013

Nationwide medical records.. violating our 4th Amendment Rights… just listen the Left going all crazy about Constitutional violations of our privacy.

And national gun registeries, also violating our 4th Amendment Rights.. just listen the Left going all crazy about Constitutional violations of our privacy.

The Left just assumes that the general public will automatically decipher the false equivalencies, which is a laugh.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
5. I know self-proclaimed conservos who are appalled
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 09:51 PM
Aug 2013

but a media "conservo" or media "liberal" are just labels part of a media narrative.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
8. The main reason is that the love invading our privacy, because they're fascists
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 09:02 PM
Aug 2013

However, there are other reasons:

  • If they want to impeach Obama over this, then they are tacitly admitting there was a good reason to impeach Bush.
  • Corollary: What the fuck does this shit have to do with Benghazi?
  • If they make noise about it, their friends in the defense industry might become very upset; Democrats aren't immune from this, either. Isn't that right, Senator Feinstein?

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