New HORRIFYING video shows civilians getting SLAUGHTERED in SYRIA by the Syrian Air Force 2013-08-27

[SamuelB]

Dictator Bashar al-Assadsad continue to drop bombs on civilian populated cities.

[iamthebandfanman]

1. Oh whatever!

youre just a pro war crazy death molester who likes to kill things!

duh!

which is so obvious by your compassion for the Syrian peoples struggle!
I mean, why else would you care about innocent folks being slaughtered and women and children being gassed unless you were a war mongerer !?!?

...

now back to reality...
Sorry, just beating all the nut jobs to the punch this time.



What is going on over in Syria is one of the saddest things ive witnessed in my short lifetime (one of the, not the most.. just incase someone wants to argue with me for no reason)..

[Civilization2]

14. Dropping MORE bombs is the answer? You can not bomb your way to peace.

The current WAR PUSH is, as always, aimed at hart-strings,. yes it is awful to see people killing one another,. however how exactly does bombing the same people help them ??? All this does is help the war machine continue making more and more war.., never a good thing.

[iamthebandfanman]

18. in theory

end the war more quickly.

in practice, who knows..


im not advocating bombs being dropped, but at the same time im not going to sit here and act like its not happening nor act like something doesn't need to be done...

seriously doubting the compassion of so called 'liberals'...

so glad I stopped calling myself one.

[Civilization2]

29. How about stop interfering in local politics in other lands?

You do realize that the CIA, and other "clandestine" agency political manipulations emanate from America on a disturbingly regular bases,. and "our" spook outfits often back dictators and depose democratically elected leaders in favor of more corporate minded ones?

If we would simply not fight/cause wars, for corporations and banksters, and instead work at social uplift, the world would be a much better place.

reminds me;

“The world is like a ride in an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. The ride goes up and down, around and around, it has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly colored, and it's very loud, and it's fun for a while. Many people have been on the ride a long time, and they begin to wonder, "Hey, is this real, or is this just a ride?" And other people have remembered, and they come back to us and say, "Hey, don't worry; don't be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride." And we … kill those people. "Shut him up! I've got a lot invested in this ride, shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry, look at my big bank account, and my family. This has to be real." It's just a ride. But we always kill the good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok … But it doesn't matter, because it's just a ride. And we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings of money. Just a simple choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.”

― Bill Hicks

[Renew Deal]

21. So you're solution is having the one side killed off?

[Warpy]

25. Statements that begin with "so" are generally straw men

and that one was a beaut. Now take him out and play with him, you built him for that.

[MADem]

34. If you drop them on the airfields where bombs are launched, sure.

If you take out those aircraft that are used to kill people, sure. If you blow up the bunkers full of weapons being used to kill others, then absolutely that's the right answer.

No one is talking about "bombing the same people" or OTHER people, or ANY people, for that matter.

They're talking about bombing STUFF. Taking the weapons away, taking the means to deliver the weapons away.

Why is this such a hard concept?

If a baby in a playpen with a bunch of other babies gets a hold of a knife, you don't sit by and watch the baby slice his playpen-mates to pieces...you TAKE AWAY THE KNIFE.

[Quantess]

68. Your analogy is very telling.

People in the middle east = irresponsible infants
The USA and NATO = parental figures

[MADem]

70. Well, I have used other analogies, too--but you go ahead and smug it on up.

Didn't see your comment when I used the Assad as "bully on the streetcorner terrorizing the schoolboy" analogy....must have missed it!

What's really telling is how you let the essential truth of the analogy--that when an irresponsible individual has a weapon that is harming innocents, and you have the ability to just take that weapon away, you should just DO it--whoosh right over your head in favor of trying to score some lameass little "gotcha" against me.

Sorry, you missed your mark, just as you missed the POINT.

[Civilization2]

71. Like the WMDs in Iraq? How did that work out again? Oh yeah,. millions dead and civil war unleashed!

You seem to avoid the track record of taking knives away from babies,. or was it candy.

If only it where that simple then sure we would all be for "taking the weapons away",. however it plainly is not that simple. Back one side or the other? Create a power vacuum, and more civil war, accidentally help the "wrong" people "win",. the list of possible unintended consequences is huge.

Like I have said over and over,. if you want to help,. stop the spook agencies CIA, NSA, etc. manipulating politics is foreign lands. Stop selling arms all over the world! Stop invading places for corporate/bankster benefits and focus solely on programs of social uplift. It really is that simple. However we can not because our democracy is overrun by corporate-military powers and we no longer have any democratic input into what they do in our names.

[MADem]

72. Oh, we're gonna play the comparison game, are we?

You really don't want to go down that road, otherwise we'll end up in Zyklon B territory.

Perhaps you're also unaware that we have a completely different administration than we did in 2003? You do realize that USA holds elections every four years?

You plainly aren't keeping up. The goal in Syria is NOT regime change.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/middle-east-live/2013/aug/27/syria-crisis-military-intervention-un-inspectors

USA supports a political solution to Assad, and favors a Yemen Scenario for Syria. If you don't know what that is, look it up.

Ten points off for the gratuitous use of the term "banksters."

[Civilization2]

74. So you do not support ending the arms sales? and the clandestine political manipulations?

Interesting.

It is not a comparison, it is a fact of history. Millions dead in Iraq, no WMDs found. Not much has changed with the regime change in the USA,. same corporate-military working to continue the vast and secret funding of mercenary arms contractors in the USA. It is the basses of economic growth don't you know?

"Perhaps you're also unaware,.. You do realize,. " lame belittling slurs, such condescension. Very ugly.
"You plainly aren't keeping up." more needless insults.

What is with all this vitriol? Warmonger much? Got some investment in the arms industry, or the mercenary military, or just the distraction form more pressing political issues? (the imminent end of oil, economic and environmental collapse?)

"We cannot allow this kind of violation of an international norm." humm,. like illegal spying, drone murders, secret torture prisons, and on and on,. . Corporate-fascism,. ain't it grand?

The evil banksters ARE the leaders in the push to WAR, for profit$$$.

[MADem]

75. Here is what I think. I think that the Yemen Scenario is the way to go; and the governmental

actors in Syria need to be convinced that this is the way to go. If they could figure that simple fact out NOW, they could avoid the risk of a mis-aimed weapon.

It needs to be made clear to the VP and the remaining generals and other officials within Assad's regime that, if they expect to survive, they're going to have to either mutiny and throw the Captain over the side, or convince the Captain to walk the plank into exile (after quickly finding a country that will take him--his good buddy, Russia, has said "Naaah--we don't want him!). Do this before a coalition acts against them, and a UN Blue Helmet crew could be on the ground in days, doing an orderly destruction of CW, shielded from "rebel" or "rogue Assad militia" attack by a continuous overflight protocol.

From that point, negotiations to discuss the future of Syria can begin, with the existing regime remaining in place, only without their despotic President, who will be replaced by the VP, and without their chemical weapons--and they are "their" chemical weapons; the only UN official to suggest otherwise on one occasion back in May has been thoroughly discredited (not the first time this individual has fucked up, either).

Ten more points off for "banksters," and read/learn: http://www.lemonde.fr/proche-orient/article/2013/05/27/chemical-war-in-syria_3417708_3218.html

You plainly aren't keeping up is not a "needless insult." It is a statement of simple fact. You aren't keeping up, and your declarations of fact are not fact at all--they're unsubstantiated opinions, with the odd attempt at conflation to try to misdirect/change the subject/avoid the actual issue.

The actual issue, one more time, is that al Assad is gassing noncombatant civilians -- this falls in the "crime against humanity" category. It's not negotiable, it's not hard to understand, and anyone who supports al-Assad at this point is supporting mass murder.

I suggest you get off that horse.

[Civilization2]

77. insults and claims of superior knowledge,. how quaint. Perhaps it is you who "needs to learn/read".

"The goal in Syria is NOT regime change." You just said this, then go on to call for regime change,. self contradiction much?

Actually the deflection is your posting of links to other articles, instead of dealing with the issue of war being a bankster tool of domination and profit.

Sadly you resort to calling an anti-war post a "supporter of Assad",. more than a little pathetic in fact.

Here is a link for YOU; "Banksters attack Syria to enslave America"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023549238

[MADem]

80. Apparently you have trouble with the term "regime change?"

When President Roosevelt expired at Warm Springs, and Truman fleeted up to the job, that was not "regime change."

If Bashir takes a hike, and his own, hand picked Vice Presidential successor takes over, that is NOT regime change.

No one is insulting you--it's not my fault that you don't grasp the meaning of the term.

Ten more points off for yet another gratuitous use of bankster!

Bit of a one-note, aren't you?

I only provide you links to avoid the "didactic lecture"--I'm trying to treat you with dignity.

It's plain, though, that your mind is closed, and that's your problem--not mine.

[Civilization2]

81. I have trouble with your pushing of WAR. You continue to insult while claiming the opposite,.

anyone can read you posts and see the truth,. who are you kidding? yourself?

Nothing gratuitous about point to the banksters and their penchant for war making, your refusal to acknowledge this fact is proof of your alignment,. and your silly emoticons your level of debate.

I bid you good day,

[MADem]

82. Well, I am not "pushing WAR" but thanks for playing and a lovely day to you as well.

I'm pushing for a very limited, forty-eight to seventy two hour, targeted response to crimes against humanity. I am "pushing" for the destruction of materiel, not people--and that's only if Bashir doesn't agree to let the UN come in and destroy his weapons, and his sitting down at the "Diplomacy Table" with regional leaders and other concerned international representatives.

I knew you couldn't resist trotting out the banksters yet again!

They won't get rich off of three days worth of ordnance...!

[Quantess]

78. No backtracking from you? No saying, "hey, you're right, that was a bad analogy".

Because it was a terrible analogy, no matter which way you slice it. But you go right ahead, and stand by your freudian choice of words. If you want to stand by that, go ahead.

Politicians absolutely love bad analogies. Republicans especially are the worst at coming up with poorly fitting analogies, and they embarrass themselves all the time for our entertainment here at the DU! So no, I will not stop pointing out analogy-abuse just for you.

[MADem]

79. Nope, you'll just have to live with that.

I'll tell you what--I won't be distracted by your trying to make this about me, instead of the OP, and the fact that you don't care for an analogy.

This thread isn't about ME, it is about a young man named Bashir, who makes his brutal father Hafiz look like a pussycat.

This is about the wholesale slaughter, in the most painfully excruciating fashion, of innocent civilians using chemical weapons, by a brutal dictator taking shortcuts to roust his opponents.

If you want to talk about analogies, and Republicans, and make snide inferences directed at ME instead of the issue, that scream "I have NO REAL ARGUMENT!!!" you go right on ahead. Believe me, I'll get over it and I'll note what you're doing.

[Quantess]

83. Any snide inference was imagined, on your part.

I actually was giving you a helpful hint, that a more effective response would have been to just admit that it was a poor analogy, that you of course didn't mean it that way, and to rephrase your argument better. But instead you got insulted.

[MADem]

84. I am not insulted in the slightest....but thanks for your concern! nt

[Quantess]

85. Nice to hear you got over it so quickly.

"Believe me, I'll get over it"

Edit to add: I really didn't mean any harm or any grave insult. I'm going to call it a day.

[MADem]

86. I was referring to talking about me and analogies, rather than the issue at hand.

No insult taken, grave or otherwise!

[Quantess]

87. Okay. I'm sure we will both get over it and move on.

Poorly fitting analogies are a pet peeve of mine, (and I have occasionally been guilty of making one). I truly meant it when I said that Repukes are the absolute worst at spinning terrible analogies, and that I love making fun of them when they do it!

I didn't mean to turn the focus on you, sorry if it sounded that way.

[Plucketeer]

49. Certainly about a hundred nukes would bring peace to this planet

Whatever "life" re-emerged from such a holocaust would likely be dumb enough not to do this to itself again.

[GeorgeGist]

40. Too young for Shock and Awe, eh?

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[dkf]

2. So when are you enlisting?

[iamthebandfanman]

4. just curious..

so if someone had already served their time in the military and had this opinion, youd be okay with it?
or do they have to be active serving ?

[Quantess]

69. The military might be glad to have you back, you know.

Have you asked them?

[mike_c]

3. snuff porn to beat the war drums?

These sorts of atrocities always seem to show up when an administration wants to drum up support for war. Remember "Saddam's rape rooms?" Mobile biological weapons labs?

I have not watched this video. I'm sure it's horrifying. nonetheless, I still unequivocally oppose U.S. involvement in Syria.

[MrMickeysMom]

7. It is... I can hear them drumming... or is it something else?

Sure sounds like somethings furiously wanking off. I wonder how many of these threads will come?

[arcane1]

51. The War Faps n/t

[MrMickeysMom]

54. What's a "war fap"?

Your language is not clear to me...

[arcane1]

60. "Fap" means masturbating. It was a joke based on your "furiously wanking off" remark.

Instead of war drums there are war faps

[MrMickeysMom]

88. !!!

Well, you learn something every day!

I'll remember THAT!

[Renew Deal]

22. Was there ever actual evidence of "rape rooms" or "mobile biological weapons?"

I think that's the difference between what's been going on lately and what happened in 2002.

[dipsydoodle]

5. Yes horrifying

but a sight not too unfamiliar to the US.



ITN is a UK news company and napalm was napalm.

[iamthebandfanman]

6. Well then

that makes it okay!

Right??

[dipsydoodle]

9. I posted a picture with no doubts as to its origin.

The video claims nothing other than its title without demonstrating its claim. That's why reputable media companies don't show those clips without confirmation of authenticity..

[iamthebandfanman]

13. Wow buddy.

Now whos sounding like a right winger?
Paranoid much ??

You know, you could go youtube and look up all the videos if you wanted.. there are plenty, I promise.. of dead children and women... children gasping for their last breathes....

But no no.. much easier to come on DU and proclaim your self righteous stance of 'no war' even though these people are dying by the miniute

[dipsydoodle]

19. I responded simply in connection with THIS OP.

Nothing else. Fact remains the footage could've been shot anywhere, even in another country, with either side responsible.

[iamthebandfanman]

20. LMAO.

sorry, just had to convey my response to reading this.

infact, let me do it again.

LMAO.


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. that's all you were doing. just this one single video. lmao!


hope youre enjoying yourself on youtube looking at children dying.. something tells me you aren't watching tho!

Here ill get you started

have fun in your world of paranoia!

[dipsydoodle]

26. I generally only ever watch old swing dancing videos and such music on Youtube.

I do however make the odd exception to swing music as you would find in the Music Appreciation Forum here.

[AtheistCrusader]

43. None of your posts conclusively show who carried out the attacks.

Until they do, I am unimpressed.

[Renew Deal]

23. Are you suggesting it is staged?

Or just that it might not be from Syria?

[dipsydoodle]

30. There is nothing in the video to confirm its location or date of occurence.

I'm obviously not suggesting its staged - you have to go something to stage that.

If I missed something which you spotted which does confirm its location and date of occurrence then please advise.

[Hayabusa]

35. I hope all witnesses to atrocities have the memory

to hold a copy of the day's newspaper.

[AtheistCrusader]

44. I question which side pulled the trigger.

[Renew Deal]

48. I do too

As well as with the chemical weapons attach

[KurtNYC]

12. Are you saying that the answer to Assad bombing Syria is the U.S. bombing Syria?

[iamthebandfanman]

16. i dont pretend to know the answer..

but inaction is unacceptable.

apparently being upset over whats going on in Syria and wanting SOMETHING to be done makes you a war mongering person.

well, im so sorry I care that women and children are being gassed and that he wont stop doing it or step down after diplomatic efforts were attempted..

[DontTreadOnMe]

33. Inaction is unacceptable - we need to act.

I am not sure the solution, but military pressure is one.

The EXTREME LEFT needs to go hide their heads in the sand... and pretend it's not happening.

[David__77]

57. Target the al Qaeda terrorists instead.

How about that?

I don't support that even. All we need to do is strongly urge/pressure pro-terrorist "allies" like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey to quit their jihad in Syria, and this will stop.

[AtheistCrusader]

45. You care about something that isn't actually known.

This could have been the militants. You have no idea who used the weapons that caused the carnage in those videos. No idea at all.

[MFM008]

53. this is the same garbage

the Bosnian Serbs and Serbia said everytime someone bombed a bosnian breadline or marketplace.

Why would they gas their own kids and condemn them to a horrible death? The Syrian AF needs some weeding as does any of their gas stockpiles or munition dumps. Seems to have worked in Libya.

[AtheistCrusader]

67. Not all of the militants are FROM this area, and they didn't bring their kids.

Some of them are linked to the same folks we beat in Iraq. People who only lost because they couldn't help themselves from blowing up bystanders to get at US troops, or beheading people not adhering to extreme sects of Islamic interpretation. Basically, the people turned on them, because they were less palatable than we were.

Now some of them are in Syria, with the rebels. I wouldn't put it past them to use some of these weapons in hopes of triggering an international response that will benefit them. Not their kids, they don't care, just like they didn't care when they used Iraqi kids to lure troops into bombs.

[Scuba]

8. There's a ton of obscene atrocities going on in the world. US military intervention ....

... would not be a remedy for any of them.

It would however, further enrich the already wealthy MIC.

[BillyRibs]

11. Sorry,

Not interested in that bridge for sale in Brooklyn.

[Vinnie From Indy]

10. Wish I could see the IP address of the OP

Of course war is horrible and this video shows it quite clearly. Again, the question remains - will our involvement make it worse? Will we be needed to protect civilians from the "winners" should Assad fall?

[Scuba]

17. I'll bet you have a pretty good idea where this is originating.

Raytheon maybe? General Dynamics?

[Renew Deal]

24. Are you suggesting that the video is staged?

[Scuba]

27. Nope.

[Renew Deal]

28. Then your suggestion that this is "originating" from Raytheon, etc., is wrong.

[HubertHeaver]

15. Would it be any better if it were the US bombing the civilian targets?

Who would we be killing and why?

[Warpy]

31. It seems that video is an accurate one

"Allah akbar!" is a blessing they shout for the dead, acknowledging it's god's will they're dead. It looks like the sort of shock and confusion you find after a bombing (even though the only one I've been through was a firebombing of an apartment building when I was in it).

Yes, this is horrible to watch. No, we have no place in it unless the UN decides to act.

[BobbyBoring]

32. I don't get it.

If that's what "Allah" wants for you, that's a pretty fucked up god~

[Hayabusa]

37. It think it's also become a cultural idiom for

"Oh God..."

[Warpy]

41. Their concept of god is that god is unknowable

The idea of a personal god who fits into a nice, tidy box is utterly foreign to them. Their god is not a Sunday school god.

They are also fatalists. If someone has a dim spark of life left, they will work heroically to save him. If they find someone dead, they are acknowledging that they are incapable of understanding the working of the universe but it is working according to what god has decreed.

[dipsydoodle]

36. Means "God is greater" or "God is [the] greatest".

and seems to be used as hello and goodbye from experience.

[MADem]

39. The UN cannot act because the will of the majority is blocked by Russia and China.

The only other option is for a coalition to do what the UN cannot.

France supports a targeted punitive military action against al Assad.

FRANCE.

The place with the socialist, peacenik President. The guy who rarely agrees with USA on anything.

He agrees with us on this matter.

This did happen, it's quite clear who did it, and all that a coalition will do is advise al-Assad forcefully that he just can't do that again.

There will be no "boots on the ground," no "MIC," no "PTB," none of that drama.

When a bully is running around beating people with a baseball bat, you take away his baseball bat, and his tire iron, and his broom handle, and anything else he can swing.

The target will be STUFF, not people.

[Warpy]

42. That might work in a conventional war

or even an organized revolution. This is neither.

Bombing an airfield looks good on paper, but what if it only prolongs the hell of disorganized fighting on the ground?

These things end in the Middle East only when all sides are exhausted. That's how it was in Lebanon and that's how it will be in Syria.

[MADem]

62. The goal is NOT regime change. The goal is to stop a despot from gassing people.

Said despot needs to be deprived of the materials needed to carry out these slaughters.

If al Assad decides to leave and allow his VP to step up, that would be grand, but that's not the first order of business, here. He seems determined to hang on, but maybe his lieutenants can encourage him to change his mind.

[Warpy]

65. Nice if it works out that way

and levels the field enough that Assad is forced to make a few sensible concessions to the rebels. That's the ideal.

However, warfare rarely works out all that well.

[David__77]

55. You mean, a "coalition of the willing?"

So, you circumvent the UN when you know you'll lose the vote at the security council. Same as with Bush in that regard. The UN is set up the way it is to require consensus among certain powers. That was the big whoop about Libya, "look we did it 'legally'" So much for that..

[MADem]

58. No--Russia and China are a crew of the unwilling blocking the will of the vast majority.

Even the Secretary General of the UN approves taking strong measures against Syria. Two clowns at the table will game the system, everyone knows it, so they're just going to cut them out of the equation.

There's just no call to gas children and old people. It's indefensible.

[David__77]

59. Take it to the council and the general assembly.

We will see if a majority approve a resolution calling for military strikes. I predict that a majority of the general assembly would NOT approve. This Brazil, not South Africa, not India, not Pakistan, not Vietnam, not Nepal, almost all of South/Central America would be opposed, many African countries would be opposed... If the US is so confident, then go for a vote and so who really is isolated, and who is not.

[MADem]

63. Well, Brazil isn't a neighbor of Syria's; the Arab League nations-that support this action-are. nt

[David__77]

64. The US is not a neighbor either.

The Arab League has nothing to do with international law. So you just need a coalition of willing resting on the thoughts of some great democrats among these princes and sheiks and generals.

[MADem]

73. We're allied with the Arab League, though--and they ARE neighbors.

And this has EVERYTHING to do with international law.

Good grief, you are not entitled to make up your own "facts."

The Geneva Conventions are "international law."

This is not a "new" situation--it's been going on for some time, now. If you don't want to listen to Americans on the topic, listen to a French reporter (and note the date on the piece):

http://www.lemonde.fr/proche-orient/article/2013/05/27/chemical-war-in-syria_3417708_3218.html

[SamuelB]

38. US should at least take out the Syrian air force capabilities

Is that really too much to ask? To prevent this sadist dictator to bomb his own people?

[Divine Discontent]

47. a reasonable question and probable plan. good post!

and for those mocking the people calling out to God, they're doing so because they're saying that despite these acts of evil, God is great, and they're not giving up their faith despite the cruelty of actions some men choose to do (we have freewill).

Let's hope the strikes destroy their ability harm their people en masse, and it gives those against the tyrant a way to get him out.



http://www.zazzle.com/elizabeth_warren_for_president_of_the_usa_bumper_sticker-128665143471542797?rf=238107662556833486

[David__77]

61. Yeah, you'd probably get your hope. It could very well help al Qaeda seize more territory.

They like to cry god is great when they shoot and cannibalize their victims. Grand vision for democracy.

[W T F]

46. I don't give a shit if you're anti-war or pro-war, this shit can't go without a

Responce. Sitting back and letting these people be slaughtered, is no different than the mother who says nothing, while her child is being beaten and abused by his father, because she wants keep domestic tranquilly. I'm not a war Monger, but this is not the president making up lies to go to war, ther's no oil in Syria and I'm not calling for an invasion and occupation. I just don't want see childeren being slaughtered anymore, and turning a blind eye to it, just doesn't do it for me.

[David__77]

52. Syria is at war with al Qaeda.

I oppose al Qaeda and do not want to grease their way into power with US treasure and lives. Do you disagree?

[Sand Wind]

50. K&r

[David__77]

56. It's despicable that the terrorists are using civilians as human shields.

The US' wonderful democratic allies like Saudi Arabia and Qatar should cut off aid unless the insurgents agree to stop this practice immediately.

[markpkessinger]

66. And the Egyptian military junta . . .

. . . which overthrew a democratically elected government, recently slaughtered hundreds of its own citizens, who were in the streets demanding the restoration of the government THEY elected. Where was the moral outrage for that? Where were all the self-righteous calls for U.S. intervention in that dispute?

<<crickets>> . . . <<crickets>> . . . <<crickets>> . . .

[AnotherMcIntosh]

76. You should call 1-888-550-ARMY (2769).

Cyber-recruiters are standing by.


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