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JohnyCanuck

(9,922 posts)
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 07:11 PM Sep 2013

Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson US Army (Ret) says quite possible gas attack was a false flag op

Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson (Ret) who was the Chief of Staff to US Secretary of State Colin Powell in the runup to GW2 (in which role he helped to pass on the cooked intelligence used as a justification for invading Iraq) tells Cenk at the Young Turks that what he hears from the intelligence community is that the evidence linking the gas attack to Assad is "realy flakey" and he states it is quite possible the gas attack could have been a false flag operation by the oppositionn forces or even by the Israelis.

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Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson US Army (Ret) says quite possible gas attack was a false flag op (Original Post) JohnyCanuck Sep 2013 OP
And this would shock anyone? Really? PDJane Sep 2013 #1
The worshippers are out in force explaining that all opposing info is bunk. L0oniX Sep 2013 #7
if it is iamthebandfanman Sep 2013 #2
LOL. nt SunSeeker Sep 2013 #3
Explosions heard and video tapped by NYC Firemen. DhhD Sep 2013 #4
Why do you say that? another_liberal Sep 2013 #6
With the BS the government put out, you have doubts? RC Sep 2013 #9
It was tom_kelly Sep 2013 #20
A man with a pair speaks up. another_liberal Sep 2013 #5
as he always does. elleng Sep 2013 #8
I heard someone say this MissDeeds Sep 2013 #10
"No one should ever doubt, what no one is sure about." - Willie Wonka reformist2 Sep 2013 #17
I thought Current TV was gone? What did I miss here... navarth Sep 2013 #11
according Wikipedia, the last show on current was Aug 15. shireen Sep 2013 #12
How strange navarth Sep 2013 #14
i've been trying to find the original source .... shireen Sep 2013 #15
a clue! a clue! That video is so out of context. shireen Sep 2013 #16
He makes almost no case for an Israel based false flag but KurtNYC Sep 2013 #13
Redline is a Netanyahu term soryang Sep 2013 #18
Open letter dated 8/30 signed by Wilkerson and other Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity. proverbialwisdom Sep 2013 #19
Lt. Col Wilkerson pjt7 Sep 2013 #21
 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
7. The worshippers are out in force explaining that all opposing info is bunk.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 09:49 PM
Sep 2013

I however suspect that it is is a setup to get Obama to attack ...and be aligned with Al Qaeda and the rebels. Obama is being played IMO.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
6. Why do you say that?
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 09:47 PM
Sep 2013

You just got no meaningful response to a man with knowledge and the balls to tell truth to power?

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
5. A man with a pair speaks up.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 09:43 PM
Sep 2013

Here's to you, sir! You serve your country and its people well by having the courage to speak out.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
10. I heard someone say this
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 10:12 PM
Sep 2013

same thing over the weekend. Information warfare...the first causality is truth. Question everything, doubt nothing.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
11. I thought Current TV was gone? What did I miss here...
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 10:17 PM
Sep 2013

..not that I disagree with anything, I'm just wondering. I thought Current was now Al Jazeera America. Does Current still exist somewhere?

shireen

(8,333 posts)
12. according Wikipedia, the last show on current was Aug 15.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 10:33 PM
Sep 2013

I'm guessing that segment is from that date or just before. We already knew about the alleged chemical attack at that point, i think. --- edited to add. Wait, I take that back! According to Doctors without borders, the attack was on Aug 21. So, I have no idea what's going on!

Something definitely happened because Doctors Without Borders have been in contact with reliable sources that are reporting neurotoxic symptoms in hospitals. More at http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/press/release.cfm?id=7029&cat=press-release

But who is responsible? I really don't know what to make of it.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
14. How strange
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 10:46 PM
Sep 2013

I mean, it looks just like Cenk's show when it was on Current, I watched it quite a bit. (Man do I miss Keith) But if Current had it's last broadcast on the 15th but the chemical attack was Aug 21.....WTF. Maybe Cenk hasn't taken off the Current logo from his webcast? No that doesn't sound right...mystery.

I agree with your last line: Who is responsible? Don't know what to make of it. False flag operation? Accident being exploited? Very confusing times.

shireen

(8,333 posts)
15. i've been trying to find the original source ....
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 10:49 PM
Sep 2013

Wasted the past half hour looking for the original video. I can't get into the TYT site to check all their content because it is by subscription only. It's a compelling interview, and I really want to know when it aired. Wilkerson had some very interesting comments that deserve more follow-up coverage.

shireen

(8,333 posts)
16. a clue! a clue! That video is so out of context.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 11:19 PM
Sep 2013

I found a reference to the video, but the original was no longer on youtube.

Apparently Wilkerson does interviews for therealnews.com. I did a search on his name, and the third last entry of the first results page had a video link described as
Videos - Col. Lawrence Wilkerson: Chemical weapon use in Syria ...
May 4, 2013 ... Retired Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, former Chief of Staff to Colin Powell during the Bush administration, talks to Cenk about how President ...


That link was to a a page that does not play the video because it is no longer on youtube. But the caption says, Col. Lawrence Wilkerson: Chemical weapon use in Syria 'could have been an Israeli false flag...

I don't know how the OP found that video, but it is not referring to the current crisis.

I have no idea why they were discussing this in May!


Edited to add: earlier, I had trouble loading the OP's youtube video so I did not see the date, and so i set off on my wild goose chase. A minute ago, it just loaded properly, and I see that the date is May 6. All that work for nuthin'. I need to get a life.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
13. He makes almost no case for an Israel based false flag but
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 10:37 PM
Sep 2013

his analysis of Israel's geopolitical situation is good, eg 'Israel is in the most dangerous environment it has seen since 1948.'

I would note also that Netanyahu's bet on Romney during the campaign was a gross miscalculation.

soryang

(3,299 posts)
18. Redline is a Netanyahu term
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 11:56 PM
Sep 2013

Obama wasn't exactly statesmanlike in moving the redline from Iran to Syria. Three dimensional chess? I remember years and years ago when neocons thought that "bringing nuclear war to Russia's doorstep" was a viable strategy. Now a military attack on their longtime satellite appears to present "no problem" of triggering WWIII. The people running our country are seriously deranged.

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
19. Open letter dated 8/30 signed by Wilkerson and other Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity.
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 12:42 AM
Sep 2013
http://consortiumnews.com/2013/08/30/an-appeal-to-gen-dempsey-on-syria/

An Appeal to Gen. Dempsey on Syria
August 30, 2013


Gen. Martin Dempsey, Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman, has spoken soberly about the dangers from any military strike on Syria, but press reports indicate President Obama is still set on launching cruise missiles in the coming days, an action that former U.S. intelligence professionals say should prompt Dempsey’s resignation.

MEMORANDUM FOR: General Martin Dempsey, Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff
FROM: Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
SUBJECT: Syria and Our Oath to Defend the Constitution

<>

Very Respectfully,

For the Steering Group, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity

William Binney, Senior Scientist, NSA (ret.)
Thomas Drake, Senior Executive, NSA (former)
Dan Ellsberg, VIPS Member Emeritus
Philip Giraldi, CIA, Operations Officer (ret.)
Matthew Hoh, former Capt., USMC, Iraq & Foreign Service Officer, Afghanistan
Larry Johnson, CIA & State Department (ret.)
W. Patrick Lang, Senior Executive and Defense Intelligence Officer, DIA (ret.)
David MacMichael, National Intelligence Council (ret.)
Tom Maertens, Foreign Service Officer & NSC Director for Nonproliferation (ret.)
Ray McGovern, former US Army infantry/intelligence officer & CIA analyst (ret.)
Elizabeth Murray, Deputy National Intelligence Officer for Middle East (ret.)
Todd Pierce, US Army Judge Advocate General (ret.)
Sam Provance, former Sgt., US Army, Iraq
Coleen Rowley, Division Council & Special Agent, FBI (ret.)
Larry Wilkerson, Col., US Army (ret); Chief of Staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell
Ann Wright, Col., US Army (ret); Foreign Service Officer (ret.)

pjt7

(1,293 posts)
21. Lt. Col Wilkerson
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 07:10 PM
Sep 2013

deserves much credit here.

When the automatic war press buttons are pushed it is very hard to speak the truth.

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