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Oh my, 'The Autobiography of Mother Jones' I had no idea! (Original Post) angstlessk Sep 2013 OP
Love Mother Jones! 20score Sep 2013 #1
I knew she was a part of the labor movement, but just WOW! angstlessk Sep 2013 #2
Me too. IrishAyes Sep 2013 #5
This is great! PERFECT for Labor Day. I'm passing this along! reformist2 Sep 2013 #3
one day... handmade34 Sep 2013 #4
So many died for an 8 hour day..and now we are fighting for a 40 hour week angstlessk Sep 2013 #7
I forgot to say thanks! IrishAyes Sep 2013 #6
I found this book in the local university library a while back - GREAT! - after you read that, jtuck004 Sep 2013 #8
Thanks for the recomendation..I will look them it up... angstlessk Sep 2013 #9
All I had ever known was the standard union line, until I ran across those books and realized there jtuck004 Sep 2013 #10
thanks for this. nt navarth Sep 2013 #11

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
2. I knew she was a part of the labor movement, but just WOW!
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 03:00 PM
Sep 2013

What a life she led..and child labor...even toddlers were working beside their older siblings...damn

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
4. one day...
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 07:20 PM
Sep 2013

coming from a protest gathering in Springfield, I accidentally happened upon this (in Mount Olive, IL)...what a joy it was


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http://www.illinoislaborhistory.org/union-miners-cemetary.html

some of the good people at the gathering...

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angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
7. So many died for an 8 hour day..and now we are fighting for a 40 hour week
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 11:04 PM
Sep 2013

instead of all those part time jobs...whatever way capital can exploit labor it will.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
8. I found this book in the local university library a while back - GREAT! - after you read that,
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 11:33 PM
Sep 2013

or listen to it, read "Them and Us" by James J. Matles & James Higgins, and "The Autobiography of Big Bill Haywood" by William D. Haywood and you will begin to understand that "union" between 1865 and roughly 1930 meant a far different thing than it does today, how the AF of L "business union" under Gompers, in league with business forces and with the help of federal, state, and local government authorities back-stabbed workers and helped crush the industrial union movement, leaving us with the hand of business around the workers throats today.

People think we started our downhill slide in the 80's with Reagan, but after reading the works of Mother Jones era, I realized the battle was lost much earlier, we just had a lot of natural resources and people to exploit before it became so much more apparent.

Thank you for posting this.






angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
9. Thanks for the recomendation..I will look them it up...
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 11:49 PM
Sep 2013

Seems the dockworkers just pulled out of the afl-cio..cause they were not progressive enough...

I had no idea..but I will find that book either on Librivox.org or Audible.com...I don't have time to read, but I do listen as I work..I do miss a lot but I often listen more than once so I catch stuff I miss over time.

I really am ignorant regarding the union movement, but am learning as I go along. I always knew they gave us all the perks we now enjoy and they are now all in jeopardy because of the flailing unions.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
10. All I had ever known was the standard union line, until I ran across those books and realized there
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 12:45 AM
Sep 2013

was a whole 'nother era, in which workers unionized for control instead of just "concessions". But the forces arrayed against them, ranging from business spending the equivalent of nearly a billion and a half of today's dollars on finks, spies, and assassins, the government, and turncoats like Gompers was just too much for the people to overcome.

I doubt that movement can rise up again, because people may have had that spirit schooled out of them. Living on the plantation relieves them of a lot of responsibility, and too many think think it means freedom when the master allows them to sleep in the house, instead of owning it.







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