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The "Hemisphere Project" keeps track of every phone call going through an AT&T switch, going back 26 years -- adding about 4 billion new call records per day.
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Here's the DEA's pdf presentation of the Hemisphere Project, as reported in the New York Times -- http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/09/02/us/hemisphere-project.html?_r=0
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Makes me feel so much more secure.
Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)...hard at work making you safe.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)wasn't it?
So which enemy...which war....was the excuse for the massive anti- constitutional snooping then, I wonder.
Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)...to justify the attack on out constitutionally guaranteed rights as citizens.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)install digital switching equipment that the Feds could easily wiretap. This is the technology backbone upon which NSA has scooped up everyone's calls.
Interesting to see that the metadata was actually being recorded and stored going back to Reagan-Bush era -- apparently, entirely illegally until the 2008 FISA Amendment. Maybe not even then was limitless retention without minimization legalized.
This is really quite a bombshell.
Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/02/us/drug-agents-use-vast-phone-trove-eclipsing-nsas.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0&smid=tw-share
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leveymg
(36,418 posts)of expense of becoming "CALEA-compliant". Of course, that fund was exhausted long ago.
The last program update I saw was from (I recall) 2007 and it stated that all carriers are now CALEA-compliant and that that there were no recent disbursements. So, the money must now be coming out of some Black Budget.
Until now, I didn't even realize that DEA had a Black Budget! I just assumed NSA was paying the telcos, as indeed we found it has been the other Sec. 702 data providers (Microsoft, Yahoo, AOL,etc,) as part of PRISM.
...you gotta wonder just who the DEA is sharing info with.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Wiki:
Details on the use of parallel construction were a prominent part of the 2013 mass surveillance disclosures, though there is evidence to suggest that the policy has been used for considerably longer to protect the identity of confidential informants in drug operations.[2]
The Special Operations Division (SOD) of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration advises DEA agents to practice parallel construction when creating criminal cases against Americans that are actually based on NSA warrantless surveillance.[3]
See, http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20130805
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)and be able to close the program.
They are not snooping on us to find drug dealers. They are snooping for political purposes.
Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)...absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Anyone who thinks that government, when left unchecked, will restrain itself is hopelessly delusional. ...And just how much mischief might those who are privy to all this intel indulge in? There's no bottom to that sewage pit.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)dimension quite clearly at the agency's inception.
Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)...many of the bright lines between intel gathering & policing agencies have been intentionally blurred, making the gov more "efficient" in pursuing the terrorists & criminals (the boogie men) -- while what's really under attack is our Constitution.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Meanwhile, the real ones are given CIA funding, protection and visas and end up blowing up symbolic targets in American cities. This is no anomaly, it has happened over and over again going back to WTC '93.
Go figure.
Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)and:
Signatures Link Florida Pilot Greg Smith to DEA/FBI/CIA Operations in Colombia
By Bill Conroy
Special to The Narco News Bulletin
December 1, 2007
A Gulfstream II jet that crash landed in Mexicos Yucatan Peninsula in late September bearing a load of nearly four tons of cocaine has been linked so far by media and Internet reports to everything, it seems, but alien spaceships.
But Narco News has recently obtained a document that could help you, kind reader, better identify the UFOs (unexplained frequent obfuscations) that seem to hover over this case...
FULL ARTICLE - http://www.narconews.com/Issue48/article2919.html
leveymg
(36,418 posts)In Afghanistan since '02, well nobody has published that story, yet. No doubt, one can book a direct flight to one of a number of scenic New Europe destinations via Karzai Airways. Don't worry, there are plenty of Gulfstreams out there to take over the old Cali to Miami route.
Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)..."Air America" was based on a true story.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)against the Communist labor unions.
It was at this time that Meyer Lansky advised his business partners to support Dewey and the Republicans because they had more powerful Judges in their pockets. Lansky's protege, Lucky Luciano, was deported to Italy at the end of WW2, and he had also served as a go-between for US military intelligence with the Sicilian and Naples families. Godfather 2 alludes in a roundabout way to some of that.
That's just the Italian-American side of it. You should read the definitive work on the role of US intelligence agencies in the drugs trade, The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia, which is available free online.
RKP5637
(67,030 posts)pizza and chinese food. Phew, I sure feel a lot safer now also knowing all chatty chatty calls are being archived. Never know when Aunt B. is up to some nefarious activity.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)With interest and penalties, you owe Domino's $887.42 plus the merchant's Hemisphere user fee, $5000.00. For details, read your telephone company service agreement. Would you like to pay by credit card or direct deposit?
RKP5637
(67,030 posts)the discrepancy immediately and having made good on my debt!
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)antihistamine and two Ibuprofens. I don't normally take the Ibuprofens, but just this once I hope I won't be hassled for the drugs.
Now -- you don't need to collect my phone bills. If you want to know about my drug use, I will be delighted to tell you all the dirty details.
At my age, I don't need drugs to get confused. I'm just naturally that way every once in a while.
The 60s generation has aged. I wish the US government would grow up like we did.
Hunt for Meth. Just look for skinny people who are very nervous. That is, I have the impression, the big killer drug. Maybe heroin and cocaine. Surely the numbers of users is not high enough (excuse the bad pun) to justify the investment and manpower involved in collecting and keeping all our phone data back to the 1980s. That's sick. Just sick.
Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)UPDATE: Add the IRS to the list of federal agencies obtaining information from NSA surveillance. Reuters reports that the IRS got intelligence tips from DEA's secret unit (SOD) and were also told to cover up the source of that information by coming up with their own independent leads to recreate the information obtained from SOD. So that makes two levels of deception: SOD hiding the fact it got intelligence from the NSA and the IRS hiding the fact it got information from SOD.
Even worse, there's a suggestion that the Justice Department (DOJ) "closely guards the information provided by SOD with strict oversight," shedding doubt into the effectiveness of DOJ earlier announced efforts to investigate the program....
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/dea-and-nsa-team-intelligence-laundering
Now aint' that just cozy? I wonder how many jurisdictional questions these incestuous liaisons raise.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)WTF?
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)stop telemarketers.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Good point.
Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)Pholus
(4,062 posts)Sounds about right.