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bondwooley

(1,198 posts)
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 10:58 PM Dec 2013

The Man Who Brought Down McCarthy



This week in 1954, the U.S. Senate voted 67 to 22 in favor to “condemn” paranoid, communist-hunting Senator Joseph McCarthy for “conduct that tends to bring the Senate into dishonor and disrepute.”

Because the resolution used the seemingly unenforceable term condemn rather than censure, McCarthy’s supporters on the Senate floor erupted into laughter. Within moments, McCarthy pledged to go on with his witch hunt – one that had already ruined scores of American lives and humiliated our nation.

In typical American fashion, after months of work, Congress failed to correct a situation that Congress itself created.

And in typical fashion, it was one lone, brave American who, ultimately, picked up the shovel that was going to put McCarthyism in its rightful grave: Joseph Welch.

Joseph Welch was an attorney who just got too damn sick and tired of the madness when McCarthy set out to destroy the life of an employee at his law firm. And this impromptu denunciation of McCarthy changed the course of history in ways that no politician ever could.

(Source: http://www.lesterandcharlie.com)
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The Man Who Brought Down McCarthy (Original Post) bondwooley Dec 2013 OP
Trivia PADemD Dec 2013 #1
That's astounding bondwooley Dec 2013 #2
Saw the movie recently. PADemD Dec 2013 #3
Very cool. Thanks! n/t bondwooley Dec 2013 #4
More trivia . . . Jack Rabbit Dec 2013 #5
Whoa bondwooley Dec 2013 #7
St. Clair believed any suspect in a criminal investigation deserved a lawyer Jack Rabbit Dec 2013 #9
Even more trivia MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #11
I forgot about that! Thanks for mentioning it. pacalo Dec 2013 #10
To Joseph Welch~ Cha Dec 2013 #6
"At long last, have you no decency?" longship Dec 2013 #8
I am but a neophyte to American Politics of that era....but THAT looks and sounds like a pkdu Dec 2013 #12
That is the very first thought that popped into my head. We survived McCarthy, so I guess we'll patricia92243 Dec 2013 #13
Yes, both are legends in their own mind... bayareaboy Dec 2013 #18
mccarthy/cruz ellennelle Dec 2013 #15
You would think bondwooley Dec 2013 #17
On McCarthy, Edward R. Murrow was also a catalyst for bringing him down. Left Coast2020 Dec 2013 #14
the film ellennelle Dec 2013 #16

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
3. Saw the movie recently.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 11:40 PM
Dec 2013

The judge looked so familiar to me and I couldn't remember where I had seen him before, so I looked up the full cast.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
5. More trivia . . .
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 12:27 AM
Dec 2013

The "lad" to whom Mr. Welch was referring was James St. Clair, who would serve as President Nixon's attorney during the Watergate investigation and legal proceedings. Those of us old enough to remember and had nothing but contempt for Nixon still marveled at Mr. St. Clair's deftness in handling a case that was from the start a lost cause.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
9. St. Clair believed any suspect in a criminal investigation deserved a lawyer
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 12:47 AM
Dec 2013

It seems a bit twisted to some, but those of us who believe in the ideal of American justice, if not always with its practice, appreciate that sentiment.

As a consequence of Mr. St. Clair's service to President Nixon, no one, not even Nixon's staunchest, most partisan defenders, could say that Nixon was railroaded. That just doesn't work.

longship

(40,416 posts)
8. "At long last, have you no decency?"
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 12:39 AM
Dec 2013

I can recite it like it was yesterday. I hope I got it right and my memory is still intact.


pkdu

(3,977 posts)
12. I am but a neophyte to American Politics of that era....but THAT looks and sounds like a
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 01:27 AM
Dec 2013

modern day Senator Ted Cruz ( with slightly less hair)

patricia92243

(12,595 posts)
13. That is the very first thought that popped into my head. We survived McCarthy, so I guess we'll
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 02:28 AM
Dec 2013

survive Ted Cruz.

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
18. Yes, both are legends in their own mind...
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 01:13 PM
Dec 2013

and both were loved by the big time jerkoffs of the GOP. If fact you will find today folks who think that tail-gunner Joe should be a saint by now. The only difference is that Cruz doesn't seem to drink as much.

ellennelle

(614 posts)
15. mccarthy/cruz
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 09:19 AM
Dec 2013

you should look up a great article from last spring by james fallows on the comparisons; absolutely freaky.

plus, go to TPM now, and there's a side by side photo of the two; even more freaky! their eyebrows, the cock of the head, the jaw - just amazing.

bondwooley

(1,198 posts)
17. You would think
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 10:54 AM
Dec 2013

if you looked like McCarthy, the last thing you might be successful at is politics.

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
14. On McCarthy, Edward R. Murrow was also a catalyst for bringing him down.
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 05:21 AM
Dec 2013

Just had name of show in brain and forgot it. But it was his show on the CBS network that ripped McCarthy a new one.

That concludes our television history class.

Class Dismissed.

ellennelle

(614 posts)
16. the film
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 09:21 AM
Dec 2013

don't forget george clooney's great film of murrow's takedown of mccarthy: good night and good luck, murrow's signoff.

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