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Peter O'Toole on David Letterman talking about his drinking days (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Dec 2013 OP
Good catch. ;-) Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #1
Too much awesome BrotherIvan Dec 2013 #2
Wonderful! Thanks. SaveOurDemocracy Dec 2013 #3
Brilliant! Nitram Dec 2013 #4
Welcome to DU, Nitram! calimary Dec 2013 #5
I just love it when people can't get through their own stories without laughing themselves. eggplant Dec 2013 #6
Never saw that! Thanks for sharing it! Va Lefty Dec 2013 #7
I enjoyed this a lot (but) frazzled Dec 2013 #8
Sorry, but ex-drunks have the better stories. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #17
Sorry, but ... frazzled Dec 2013 #18
Believe me, I'm familiar with both. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #19
Hilarious ! Laughed my ass off ! This noted Brit actor will be very missed. RBInMaine Dec 2013 #9
Excellent! I recall many years back a similar interview with Richard Harris. Lucky Luciano Dec 2013 #10
"Lawrence of Arabia" is probably one of the best films closeupready Dec 2013 #11
My Favorite Year ThoughtCriminal Dec 2013 #12
Mine too. secondvariety Dec 2013 #13
What a life this guy had. NBachers Dec 2013 #14
That was delightful. Indi Guy Dec 2013 #15
He will be missed. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #16
This was wonderful. KatyaR Dec 2013 #20

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
2. Too much awesome
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 05:38 PM
Dec 2013

I can just imagine he and Peter Finch and Richard Harris, what a sight that would have been. I love how open he is about his escapades throughout his life. And what an amazing actor. Damn, they don't make 'em like that any more.

calimary

(81,107 posts)
5. Welcome to DU, Nitram!
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 06:15 PM
Dec 2013

Glad you're here! It just irks me that this brilliant artist never won an Oscar. WTF??????? Seriously? Yes they finally threw him a bone and gave him an honorary Oscar but, shit, it's not the same thing. Astoundingly enough, Richard Burton never won an Oscar either. Sheesh. Sometimes there's just no justice...

eggplant

(3,908 posts)
6. I just love it when people can't get through their own stories without laughing themselves.
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 06:16 PM
Dec 2013

I hope he gets that epitaph on his grave!

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
8. I enjoyed this a lot (but)
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 06:24 PM
Dec 2013

I began to ask myself, what is it we find so adorable about drinkers and drunkenness? I include myself among those who can fall for a charming rapscallion with a quick wit—as long as that drunken wit, of course, does not live in our houses, befouling the nest and causing anxiety to all. Then it's a nightmare.

So sad that Peter Finch, his drinking buddy in this story, died at age 61 (and Richard Burton, apparently another friend, at 59) — both of them younger than I am. Indeed, I looked it up, and Finch was born the same year as my father (1916), who is still alive and well, and Burton the same year as my mother (1925), also thankfully alive. Really just as sad that Finch almost died in the 1970s, and I suppose he's lucky to have lived to 81. Though 81 is not particularly an advanced age these days.

I guess I was just comparing the endearing comments with those surprisingly angry and hostile comments that have been around a lot the last few weeks here excoriating cigarette smokers (and even e-cigarette smokers!). And it can't be because smokers supposedly harm those around them: drinkers harm them even more directly, ruining people's lives and sometimes killing them on the spot.

So while I'm a big fan of Peter O'Toole's and I loved his story (especially his tombstone), and while I am not judging him, I do wonder why we love a drunk.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
17. Sorry, but ex-drunks have the better stories.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 03:42 AM
Dec 2013

And by "better" I don't mean "happy, unicorns and sunshine farting rainbows". I mean ugly, unpleasant... but occasionaly hysterical. At the very least, shit happens.

Cigarette smoking simply doesn't lend itself to that sort of narrative excitement.

"I bought a pack of smokes, it cost five bucks, I complained about it being too expensive, and how unfair it is that smokers are persecuted with taxes. I had to go out to the curb to smoke it, so I complained about that. Then, my coat smelled like shit, so no one wanted to share a cab with me.. So I complained about that. More persecution!

Then, an hour later I needed to do it all again".

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
18. Sorry, but ...
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 11:47 AM
Dec 2013

Have you ever had to sit next to a drunken friend for an entire evening? BOOOORRRRRING.

I first understood the boringness of drunkenness when I was pregnant with my first child. We'd gone to an avant-garde film that turned out to be a performance of a sort: people were offered military clothing and accoutrements to wear upon buying their tickets, and if you didn't choose anything, you'd have to sit in the "civilian" section. Furthermore, hard liquor would be available for consumption cost-free (lots of it), while a beer entailed an extra charge. People were drinking scotch and bourbon by the bucketful as the film/performance progressed, and I, being pregnant and not wanting to drink, was the only sober person in the audience. This is quite a revelatory position in which to find oneself, and one doesn't forget it quickly. Embarrassment for your fellow human beings is the most polite way you can put it. It's eye-opening. They may THINK they're funny and interesting, but believe me, it's a delusion.

Smokers on the other hand have been shown to be the best conversationalists. But that was then, before people got all ooooo-ooooo: the scenario you chose to put forth is merely the result of new restrictions and your own prejudices. You fail to mention the hurt and sometimes total devastation drunks do to family and friends; and, when they get in a car, to complete strangers, whom they maim and kill. If that's the "shit" you think is "interesting," go for it. I could write that story for you, of the ruined lives, resentful children, spouses who've had to give up and leave ...

I'm someone who enjoys a good drink once in a while (scotch, mostly), and I drink wine regularly. But I also remember when this was cool (and by the way, he didn't die from smoking):

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
19. Believe me, I'm familiar with both.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 04:28 PM
Dec 2013

I watched a parent die of lung cancer. Also had my best friend killed by a drunk driver.

I don't romanticize (much less do, anymore, actually) either- still, I find the whole "put upon, oppressed smoker" routine extremely tiresome. YMMV, of course.

Lucky Luciano

(11,248 posts)
10. Excellent! I recall many years back a similar interview with Richard Harris.
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 06:33 PM
Dec 2013

I should see if I can dig that up. It was similarly hilarious.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
11. "Lawrence of Arabia" is probably one of the best films
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 07:35 PM
Dec 2013

I've ever seen, in large part because of his amazing performance. RIP.

KatyaR

(3,445 posts)
20. This was wonderful.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 08:03 PM
Dec 2013

My first thought when I heard he had passed was that somewhere he and Harris are sitting down having a pint together.

I'm not religious, but I'd like to think this could happen....

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