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EarlG

(21,945 posts)
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 01:33 PM Jan 2014

Pic Of The Moment: In New Statement, John McCain Blasts President Obama For Iraq Withdrawal



McCain, Graham blame Obama for fall of Fallujah


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Pic Of The Moment: In New Statement, John McCain Blasts President Obama For Iraq Withdrawal (Original Post) EarlG Jan 2014 OP
This Fallujah, will be the new Benghazi..(for these assholes..) Stuart G Jan 2014 #1
All this screeching over Iraq is actually all about Afghanistan and the Bilateral Security TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #2
There it is, the right wing pundit class strikes again for their masters. n/t freshwest Jan 2014 #9
John McSame. ctsnowman Jan 2014 #3
The war based on lies is on John McCain's shoulders not Obama's /nt think Jan 2014 #4
NOT SURE IF SERIOUS OR CRAZY OLD MAN RAMBLINGS Initech Jan 2014 #5
crazy... kardonb Jan 2014 #24
Gee, his buddy W. attacks Iraq based on a lie, allows al-Qaida louis-t Jan 2014 #6
Sooo, let me get this straight: Obama time traveled back to the Bush years and messed up Fallujah... freshwest Jan 2014 #7
Don't be silly... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #11
Preposterous, the gays caused Hurricane Katrina. chknltl Jan 2014 #33
The gays are almost... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #34
Cause the warmonger needs his fix... SummerSnow Jan 2014 #8
Iraq PM: Immunity issue scuttled US troop deal mitty14u2 Jan 2014 #10
Why isn't he "blasting" Bush? young_at_heart Jan 2014 #12
Agreed. These three disrupted the balance of power in the middle east. It will probably take DhhD Jan 2014 #19
Not only that, but PBO was using Chimpy's road-map for withdrawal. AAO Jan 2014 #20
And if Truman were alive....... MyOwnPeace Jan 2014 #21
This is totally a republican mess Loge23 Jan 2014 #25
I thought it was bad form to attack a President during war time? Lochloosa Jan 2014 #13
McCain must have been taking a trip down memory lane as he poured over old notes.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #14
Ha! Love it! "He shouldn't have gotten addicted to Iraq in the first place." :D tofuandbeer Jan 2014 #15
The Iraqis didn't want to play to SOFA game. MADem Jan 2014 #16
To quote Gomer Pyle "surprise surprise" How about Linsey has he weighed in on it yet? N/t doc03 Jan 2014 #17
Hey Johnny boy! SCVDem Jan 2014 #18
Prosecutions of war criminals is the proper response for humans. grahamhgreen Jan 2014 #22
Democracy at the point of a GUN is not Democracy HockeyMom Jan 2014 #23
The best answer for McCain and Lindsey, they have to come up with a way to pay for the Thinkingabout Jan 2014 #26
K&R. I agree with the graphic. Overseas Jan 2014 #27
Gosh it was nice to not have him around for awhile!! oldandhappy Jan 2014 #28
That picture is creeping me out. nt SunSeeker Jan 2014 #29
If he didn't want Iraqui withdrawal... Nitram Jan 2014 #30
How Dare John McCain criticise General Petraeus?????? Mustellus Jan 2014 #31
Americans should be asking McCain to pay back the 3 trillion dollars that Bush DhhD Jan 2014 #32

Stuart G

(38,416 posts)
1. This Fallujah, will be the new Benghazi..(for these assholes..)
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 01:40 PM
Jan 2014

It won't work. Most of us are glad to be out of Iraq. enough...

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
2. All this screeching over Iraq is actually all about Afghanistan and the Bilateral Security
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 01:42 PM
Jan 2014

Agreement. It's a concerted, carefully-timed effort by the usual suspects (Charles Krauthammer, McLame, Kristol, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal) to tell Obama: Don't you DARE consider leaving Afghanistan too, or we'll blame it all on you like we're doing with Iraq now.

louis-t

(23,292 posts)
6. Gee, his buddy W. attacks Iraq based on a lie, allows al-Qaida
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 02:00 PM
Jan 2014

to gain a foothold in the country, kills hundreds of thousands of innocent people, spends hundreds of billions, now he says we shoulda STAYED THERE?? At war forever?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
7. Sooo, let me get this straight: Obama time traveled back to the Bush years and messed up Fallujah...
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 02:13 PM
Jan 2014
Fits in with the RWNJ contention that Obama supporters 'worship him as their messiah.'

The 'Obama is all-powerful' image is theirs alone.


chknltl

(10,558 posts)
33. Preposterous, the gays caused Hurricane Katrina.
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 12:35 PM
Jan 2014

Do I need to find a reference before adding the word "duh" and a sarcasm thingy?

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
8. Cause the warmonger needs his fix...
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 02:14 PM
Jan 2014

If he was POTUS (takes a second to laugh) we would still be in Iraq and God knows where else.

mitty14u2

(1,015 posts)
10. Iraq PM: Immunity issue scuttled US troop deal
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 02:27 PM
Jan 2014

2011
BAGHDAD — Iraq's prime minister said Saturday that U.S. troops are leaving Iraq after nearly nine years of war because Baghdad rejected American demands that any U.S. military forces to stay would have to be shielded from prosecution or lawsuits.
The comments by Nouri al-Maliki, a Shiite, made clear that it was Iraq who refused to let the U.S. military remain under the Americans' terms.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/44998833/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/iraq-pm-immunity-issue-scuttled-us-troop-deal/

Western oil firms remain as US exits Iraq

The end of the US military occupation does not mean Iraqis have full control of their oil.

On November 27, 38 months after Royal Dutch Shell announced its pursuit of a massive gas deal in southern Iraq, the oil giant had its contract signed for a $17bn flared gas deal. Three days later, the US-based energy firm Emerson submitted a bid for a contract to operate at Iraq's giant Zubair oil field, which reportedly holds some eight million barrels of oil.

Snip

"Prior to the 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq, US and other western oil companies were all but completely shut out of Iraq's oil market," oil industry analyst Antonia Juhasz told Al Jazeera. "But thanks to the invasion and occupation, the companies are now back inside Iraq and producing oil there for the first time since being forced out of the country in 1973."


http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2011/12/2011122813134071641.html

The political propaganda says we didn’t go to war for oil, but the facts differ, no matter now if US citizens end up getting the gas or not its on the market, Big Oil Profits from Iraq’s oil, Libya oil just went back on line dropping global oil prices.

McCain and Graham should both put out to pasture, in the next 10-20 years guys them and the Koch Bros to Karl Rove will be dead or retired then maybe we can get back on track being the United States of America, keeping this guys in check will help to quell the Neocons war mongering.

young_at_heart

(3,767 posts)
12. Why isn't he "blasting" Bush?
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 02:49 PM
Jan 2014

Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld caused this catastrophe but it's never mentioned. Someday people will curse those three for the tremendous damage they have done to the world!

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
19. Agreed. These three disrupted the balance of power in the middle east. It will probably take
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 04:17 PM
Jan 2014

a hundred years for Middle Easterners to reestablish that balance. Bush set the date for withdrawal from Iraq. Republicans like McCain, continue to lie to the American people about Iraq and Spring events in the Middle East. Obama won the elections on just the opposite. Repub Recon is getting to be old sh*t.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
20. Not only that, but PBO was using Chimpy's road-map for withdrawal.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 05:30 PM
Jan 2014

I didn't hear gramps jabberin' when Bush announced this. All these republicans are insane. If Roosevelt were alive today, He would say "all we have to fear, is, the GOP!" Actually he was right the first time. What we have to fear is the fear that's gripped the far-right-wingbats, fear of the unknown, fear of gays ( what if they make a pass at me - and I like it! ), blacks ( they'll kill me, just like on TV! And I'm afraid of their huge penises! ), women ( small penis syndrome again ), and especially that A-rab, muslin looking guy with the beard....terror...

That is the fear that we need to somehow combat. Unfortunately, the right wing media keeps them ever fearful.

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
21. And if Truman were alive.......
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 06:05 PM
Jan 2014

he'd tell them to kiss his ass while he's busy fixing their screw-ups!

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
25. This is totally a republican mess
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 08:09 PM
Jan 2014

The pukes started this mess and they own it.
What the fuck were we supposed to do? Stay there for two freakin decades??

I rarely bother anymore since this country has been long lost , but when will this country wake the fuck up to the incredibly destructive, anti-democracy, racist, elitist, homophobic, war-mongering shit-for-brain republicans??

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
14. McCain must have been taking a trip down memory lane as he poured over old notes....
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 02:59 PM
Jan 2014

At one time Republicans considered Iraq to be a goldmine in ways to attack Democrats for being weak on National Security.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
16. The Iraqis didn't want to play to SOFA game.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 03:21 PM
Jan 2014

They refused to permit a slowly downsizing, transition force with SOFA protections, so we--quite wisely--accelerated our withdrawal plans and got the hell out of there. We don't do peacekeeping without SOFA, and too bad if people don't like it.

Our departure left great gaps in policing and many took advantage.

Now al-Maliki is regretting his intemperate "Get outta here, we don't need you, ya bassstids" comments, and wants us back in that shithole (which we didn't need to be IN, in the first place, but that's a tale for another day).

I say stay out of it. They can ask the frigging UN for help at this stage of the game. We don't need to play that nonsense.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
18. Hey Johnny boy!
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 03:53 PM
Jan 2014

Why did we invade Iraq in the first place?

Any answer besides "we had no valid reason to invade" is a lie!


Second question: What is a war for?

Answer: To achieve an objective by using overwhelming force in the shortest time possible. See WWI & WWII.


It's time to take care of Americans at home now!

Third question: Why aren't we doing that?

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
23. Democracy at the point of a GUN is not Democracy
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 06:44 PM
Jan 2014

What don't these Repukes not understand about this?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
26. The best answer for McCain and Lindsey, they have to come up with a way to pay for the
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 08:33 PM
Jan 2014

Money we have already spent and the money needed to put our troops back in Iraq. They will need to hit the pockets of their 1% buddies and a lot more taxes on the same 1%.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
28. Gosh it was nice to not have him around for awhile!!
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 11:31 PM
Jan 2014

I mean it. This man gets waaaay too much air time.

Nitram

(22,791 posts)
30. If he didn't want Iraqui withdrawal...
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 09:06 AM
Jan 2014

He shouldn't have stuck his dick in there in the first place.

Mustellus

(328 posts)
31. How Dare John McCain criticise General Petraeus??????
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 09:42 AM
Jan 2014

General Petraeus, through The Surge (TM) brought an end to sectarian violence in Iraq, and ensured eternal peace and amity between Suni and Shia.

I cannot believe McCain would diss the Greatest Military Leader Of The Last Century (SM).

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