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Is Battleground Texas Worth It? (Original Post) AustinSanders Jan 2014 OP
Yes, for 3 reasons: JaneyVee Jan 2014 #1
+1 stg81 Jan 2014 #5
If Texas were to turn blue LostOne4Ever Jan 2014 #2
Yes, absolutely it is worth it dem in texas Jan 2014 #3
My take from the video is that it's a question of most effective rpannier Jan 2014 #7
Yes Gothmog Jan 2014 #4
Although Wendy Davis has an uphill battle against that scum bag, Greg Abbott, the interest Dustlawyer Jan 2014 #6
I didn't watch the whole video but my guess is Texas is alot like the USA LynneSin Jan 2014 #8
Here are some US maps, look at Texas when you consider population happyslug Jan 2014 #9
Missing the Point of Battleground Texas erpowers Jan 2014 #10
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
1. Yes, for 3 reasons:
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:49 AM
Jan 2014

1-Texas has lowest voter turn out of any State in America besides Hawaii. Which means it CAN be turned blue if blue voters showed up at the polls. 2-Why shouldn't Dems stake a claim in Texas? Every state should be in contest so citizens feel their voices are being heard. We shouldn't give up on states, we should be expanding in states. 3-Texas deserves better.

btw: The blue districts have the highest populations, meaning Texas CAN be won. You see all those perfectly square shapes on your map? Almost no one lives there. Probably more cows than humans. It's just land mass. Land mass doesn't matter, population does.

LostOne4Ever

(9,286 posts)
2. If Texas were to turn blue
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 01:12 AM
Jan 2014

It would be the death knell of the Republican party.

They would not win another presidential election ever again.

dem in texas

(2,673 posts)
3. Yes, absolutely it is worth it
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 01:19 AM
Jan 2014

If you stand back and don't do anything, it will take 50 years for Texas to turn blue. You have to start somewhere. We have two great candidates for governor and lt. governor and I say, let's give it our all. There are lots of people who do not vote, just think what will happen if you get only a small part of them for the coming election. It is possible.

rpannier

(24,328 posts)
7. My take from the video is that it's a question of most effective
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:23 AM
Jan 2014

North Carolina, Florida, Wisconsin make more sense financially and logistically than Texas does. The money it would take to turn Texas would probably be better served in those three states and the party would get a better return. 3 governorships, five to ten extra house seats, 5 senate seats, maybe all 6.
Texas would be nice to have, but as far as allocating resources for a quicker return, personally, I'd spend money elsewhere.
Granted, I don't live in Texas, nor do I live in Florida, North Carolina or Wisconsin. I just think it's money better spent on a probably higher return.

Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
4. Yes
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 01:47 AM
Jan 2014

This analysis is weak. Battleground is busy registering voter and activating voters. If turnout is increased, then the state will be competitive

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
6. Although Wendy Davis has an uphill battle against that scum bag, Greg Abbott, the interest
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:14 AM
Jan 2014

generated by this high dollar, high stakes race is that Democrats down ballot will benefit from one of the largest Democratic voter turnout in many years generated by this race. The money coming in from all over will help to register new voters, especially in the South where a huge, previously under-represented Hispanic population will be registered, many for the 1st time. They are likely to keep voting after this election as well. If the Castro brothers are willing to take an active part in campaigning for Wendy and others we all could be in for a pleasant surprise!
Look to the GOP to be up to their dirty tricks such as what happened to my ex-wife recently. She changed her name back to her maiden name after the divorce, changed it on her Drivers license and voter registration as well. She has even voted since then with no problem. Now that you have to show ID, usually a DL, it must match exactly with the name on your voters registration. We just received our registration cards (which you don't have to show) and they had changed her name back to her married name! Now it doesn't match with her DL and she cannot vote unless she corrects it. How could that happen?
Additionally, look for electronic voter fraud with fine results being tampered with. No one has the political will to take on this issue of electronic vote hacking. There are still no protections in place to prevent what happened in Ohio by Bush's IT guy that died in a small plane crash days before he was to be deposed in that case. This is the land of Bush/Rove after all, with Tea Party nut jobs in control of most areas of the state!

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
8. I didn't watch the whole video but my guess is Texas is alot like the USA
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:32 PM
Jan 2014


If you look at the map of texas the way it is then the battle for Dems to win looks very difficult. But if you could do red county/blue county weighted map of texas it would look alot like this one I included of the United States.

Elections go by people not acreage although the GOP thinks it should be by acreage. Those little blue counties back a wallop of people like those living in Dallas, Houston and San Antonio.
 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
9. Here are some US maps, look at Texas when you consider population
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:06 PM
Jan 2014

2012 Election by COUNTY:



http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2012/

If you look at how one way or the other by counties, notice as you near San Antonio, Dallas and Houston, the Red gets more and more blue. The real Red is the Northern Panhandle and south to by not including the Rio Grand valley (The lower Rio Grand valley is overwhelmingly blue).



The first map, but in 2004 election:



http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2004/

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
10. Missing the Point of Battleground Texas
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 04:29 PM
Jan 2014

I think the creator of this video is missing the point of Battlegroung Texas. I am pretty sure the leaders of Battleground Texas never planned for it to be a one year effort. They did not expect to start this program and then automatically see the state turn blue. The plan was to put into place the ground work needed to eventually turn Texas blue. I am pretty certain Battleground Texas is a multi-year plan.

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