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Related: About this forumEd Schultz's rant IN FAVOR of KXL!!!
http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/pipeline-sparks-environmentalist-outrage-136304195884I think he needs to go for a vacation in Alberta when it's nice and hot. He obviously doesn't get that the oil isn't going to be distributed here, it's all going to China.
global1
(25,241 posts)2naSalit
(86,528 posts)but he sure is buddy buddy with that extractive industry shill, Schweitzer from Montana, where I happen to be a voting resident.
You already have to bring your own air and water just to drive through the eastern end of the state... fracking hell in MT and SD. Not safe to actually drive through there nor is it safe to be there for more than five minutes... thanks to governor Brian.
I wouldn't be surprised if Schultz was for it before he was against it. That's one I take with a grain of salt half the time, he's a mixed bag.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)made an excellent case against it earlier on his show. I think Schweitzer has him drinking the Kool-aid. It's too obvious the Montana Governor is doing it for political reasons.
2naSalit
(86,528 posts)concept of the whole thing is that it will relieve the rail traffic... he lives kind of close to Fargo and that incident there recently got him all fired up. In fact, his city is about a half hour east of Fargo so he probably got smoked out during that event. Lots of soot that would easily have blown all over the lakes and everywhere around that whole area. That train burned for at least a couple days. And there is a rail spur line that runs right through the middle of Detroit Lakes, might not be a spur come to think of it... I haven't been up there since the early 90s.
So I can see his concern for the immediate issue of surface concerns but he doesn't seem to be interested in renewables since about last year. And somehow I suspect he's "bought in" to some of the stock ventures for a quick return. that dude has some cash and used to be a right-winger. I'm sure he has other pals in the industry than Mr. Schweitzer... though I'm sure he's gained some new connections through him, they're too friendly when they go on the air and Schweitzer gets most of his air time from Ed.
Crowman1979
(3,844 posts)What a phony!
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Looks like
he beats that drum real hard and claims he's for the working stiffs but somehow, I'm less likely to consider him an ally in the media. He has been pretty good on a lot of issues for a while but this past couple weeks... not seein' it.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)I usually see eye to eye with him but not about the Pipeline. He must think it's a done deal and wants to be able to be consistent with the working man schtick. Bummer that Obama might okay this, I'm not fully informed but it sounds like more misguided advice on energy.
A google search on the facts (People should browse the options and see for themselves)
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=VPG&rls=org.mozilla:en-US fficial&q=keystone+xl+pipeline+facts&revid=8525162&sa=X&ei=jofwUpWqBqKTyQG3tIGIDA&ved=0CKYBENUCKAI&biw=1366&bih=662
A search on pros and cons:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&hs=VPG&rls=org.mozilla:en-US fficial&q=keystone+xl+pipeline+pros+and+cons&revid=8525162&sa=X&ei=jofwUpWqBqKTyQG3tIGIDA&ved=0CKUBENUCKAE&biw=1366&bih=662
And there were some OPs here about Neil Young's activism against it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017170654
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017170570
a documentary
More Neil Young
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/09/10-4
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markpkessinger
(8,392 posts). . . if it more clearly told the viewer what he or she was looking at, and what its significance was.
2naSalit
(86,528 posts)I had a hard time finding the one I was looking for so I went with that one. If you have a good one for that, please put it up! I don't care who bring out the info, just get it out there for others to see so they will understand.
Anyone can help to educate others, I was going for some visuals but I am sure there are better videos that make the point more appropriately.
freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)No we don't, at least not all of us.
We don't want tarsands oil mined and transported at all. We want it to stay where it is, in the ground.
We think:
* Tarsands mining opens up a whole new source of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, which of course will contribute to climate change just about when climate change is becoming a crisis.
* Tarsands mining is devastating the environment in parts of Alberta, poisoning the water supply of people whose ancestors have lived there for thousands of years.
And, yeah, if there's a pipeline there will be spills.
2naSalit
(86,528 posts)both points. That stuff needs to stay in the ground, there's a reason it's hard to get at and it should stay that way. Pipeline, road or rail, the stuff isn't safe anywhere in any form but left where it's at.