'How Dare You!' Hayes' Conservative Guest (Jennifer Stefano) Goes Off During Obamacare Fight

[Tx4obama]

A copy of the VIDEO segment also here: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/how-dare-you-hayes-conservative-guest-goes-off-during-obamacare-fight/

Chris Hayes‘ show took a sharp turn Wednesday night when guest Jennifer Stefano, Pennsylvania state director for Americans for Prosperity, accused him of trying to “undercut the voice of a woman” and “making it personal” in his argument with her on the latest Obamacare extension. She raised her voice and scolded Hayes for talking over her, while a stunned Hayes insisted it had nothing to do because of her gender.
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The nuttiest person on TV today!
Palin, Bachmann, and Orly Tatiz had the day off


Edited to add...

Also, some interesting 'comments' in the comment section on the link below...

Chris Hayes' Guest Loses It Over Obamacare Deadline Extension: 'How Dare You!'
Here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/27/chris-hayes_0_n_5042261.html

[blkmusclmachine]

1. Faux Nooz wanna-be.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

2. We have a sun conure here....

It reminds me of her,...or the other way around...

[jtuck004]

6. Oh, I like the bird MUCH better. Better sense of color and style too. n/t

[Spitfire of ATJ]

50. Still, it demands attention by being annoying.

[Skittles]

3. love how when she's losing the argument she starts whining about being a woman

I mean, WTF

[AsahinaKimi]

7. I know right?

Especially when Republicans want to remove our rights, ..she is fighting the wrong damn side.

[jtuck004]

4. People can say what they want. I would have been VERY happy if he had "undercut" the voice of

this particular woman.

Shes a state director, high muckety-muck, and surely has had the best training they have (and they do training - that's how they get people elected).

Her data was silly and didn't connect to what she was saying, but then she deliberately chose to be a loudmouth (there were times when I think her mouth was open so wide she almost took up the whole little scree). She deliberately took on the attitude and voice to deflect what he was saying and run out the time on the segment while looking tough?

She thought this was her best strategic option? Being a hateful little turd with nothing useful to say on national tv? Maybe figured she couldn't answer so salvage something by throwing a cookie to their drooling supporters by not letting the "socialist liberal" push her around? This is pretty good news, it seems, if that's all they got.

It's rare that someone is so obnoxious on my computer that one of my dogs gets up and leaves the room. I lost two of them for 10 minutes just over this.

[maddiemom]

52. Very poor math skills, as well.

[teknomanzer]

61. That is what I was thinking...

The federal poverty level for a family of four is $23,850. 133% if that is about $31,721. She is either an idiot or the worst liar I have ever seen.

[freshman22]

5. People are

getting hip to what they do.Just talk loud with no facts.Same old B.S

[AsahinaKimi]

8. Its how Republicans thinks

They have won. By who screams the loudest!

[maddiemom]

53. The right wing reaction is all about how she "destroyed" Chris Hayes.

WTF? She never answered any of his legitimate questions: just spewed right wing talking points ala Sarah Palin. She had virtually no valid facts on her side (Thirty percent above the poverty line is over a 90,000 dollar income per year?) Such ignorance would be laughable if so much of the Republican base actually making no more than the real poverty line (a little over $23,000 for a family of four) weren't swallowing it. Somewhere around $30,000 is a far cry from over $90,000. Poor empathy, no heart and bad math. Why do pundits claim the Repubs will take over Congress this year? Maybe you can't fix stupid, but why should the rest of us suffer? Democrats need to get off their asses and vote in the mid-term. BTW, still trying to understand why the AHA is harming our kids, according to this crazy lady.

[Suich]

14. Yup!

[drynberg]

41. Yep, just what I was about to add...the RW "formula". But why? They got nothin'.

[Bette Noir]

9. She caused a minor storm on Twitter.

The consensus was that she's nuts.

[Cha]

19. Good to know, Bette

[The Magistrate]

10. Kid Needs To Learn How To Shut Off a Mic, Sir

He says he is from Chicago, he really ought to know how the thing is done....

[Cha]

20. My suggestion on another thread about this was..

practice in front of the mirror with recordings of such disruptive teabaggers.. it can't hurt.

Learn how to say just the right thing to shut them up. IOW.. do Not under any circumstances get defensive.. they'll only go for the jugular.

[The Magistrate]

21. You Dial Down Their Volumn, Sir

And talk over them while they grow more and more visibly agitated....

[Cha]

22. Make that "Ma'am".. thank you, Sir. And, how do you

go about "dialing down their volume"? And, then proceed to get your facts out there?

[The Magistrate]

23. One Presumes, Ma'am, A Producer In the Control Booth Can Manage It

In the old days, His Honor the Mayor That Was was notorious for having microphones switched off in City Council sessions when an alderman got out of line....

[Cha]

24. Oh, I get it! I thought you meant .. try to get the actual person

to dial down their own volume. Yes, that makes perfect sense!

Thank you, TM~

[Mr.Bill]

11. Ann Coulter wanna-be

who ended her career tonight.

[riversedge]

27. no doubt @JenniferStefano she got raise or offers from fox

or other RW outlets.

[TeamPooka]

12. "Look at me! I want a better job!"

[VanillaRhapsody]

13. She is like Nancy Grace and Sarah Palin have a baby...

[lob1]

15. Her entire strategy was volume.

Say anything, but say it loud. It obviously doesn't even have to make sense, but do it LOUD!

[Katashi_itto]

32. Thats called the "Gish Gallop"

The Gish Gallop, named after creationist Duane Gish, is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments that the opponent cannot possibly answer every falsehood in real time. The term was coined by Eugenie Scott of the National Center for Science Education. Sam Harris describes the technique as "starting 10 fires in 10 minutes."

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop

[ErikJ]

16. Just be honest you American for Prosperity

Koch-sucker.

[Suich]

17. Just watched the re-broadcast at midnight here in Seattle.

Man, she can give Bachmann, Gomert, palin,etc., a run for their money!

[3Stones]

18. The female Art Robinson

[classof56]

49. Right you are, 3Stones. And welcome to DU.

Glad to have another fellow Oregonian on board! I'm thinking you might live in Pete DeFazio's district and are thus quite familiar with Crazy Art, who, stunningly, is now head of OR Republicans. Wish I could vote for Pete, but I'm stuck in Redneckland over here East of the Cascades.

Your commitment to Oregon and Mother Earth is greatly appreciated!

Blessings.

[KurtNYC]

25. He set her up but it took her about 5 mins to get behind the smoke screen of faux outrage

Basically he starts her segment by saying that she is going to make insincere arguments about why she opposes ACA. And then she does, immediately.

When she is finally pinned on the 'you don't give a crap about insuring the uninsured' she gives a non-denial denial by going off loudly about 'you don't know why I get up in the morning!' and then a two-in-one tangent with the Harry Reid + "I am woman" combo.

[riversedge]

26. I watched this last night--and was actually rather stunned

to say the least. I actually turned my volume down. She was off the wall with rudeness to say the least.

[CTyankee]

28. I am beginning to think that the ACA has truly driven the RW to babbling incoherence.

There can be no other explanation for this sort of performance by this shill.

It is often what happens when the agony of defeat actually begins to sink in. This is a desperate performance, a word salad of outrage and pure sputtering hatred and hysteria. They know they have lost and are out of bullets, so they throw the gun...

[Rhiannon12866]

29. Yikes! I saw this!

I couldn't believe how she suddenly got all crazy on him, getting nasty and shouting. From his reaction, I don't think he was prepared for it, either...

[mdbl]

30. I would have liked the volume on her cut off....

And a graphic of a tomato splattering across her side of the split screen. That would have been more respect than she deserved.

[90-percent]

34. Cut her mic off! EXACTLY!

I see two things that Journalists like Chris should use to force a "fair and balanced" debate.

The first is to have a TRAINED debate moderator that would enforce a one at a time exchange. Your turn - times up - your rebuttal.

The second thing is for Chris to have a cut-the-mic switch, so when people like her filibusterer by being a domineering rude bully that doesn't allow the other person to speak and interrupts the other person to complete their statements.

Cut her off, make your point, Chris, then turn the mic back on to give her a fair amount of time to make her point, then cut her mic after giving a fair amount of ranting time to her, and respond.

The opponents of the ACA are scraping the bottom of the barrel by resorting to bullying screaming word salad desperation. This was not an exchange of ideas. This was a spoiled mean selfish child badgering mom and dad to get her a new toy.

I like cutting the mic because it would force the word salad tossers to at least engage in a fair exchange of ideas and it would negate the behavior of people that seem to have the emotional maturity of 5th graders!

At long last ma'am, have you no sense of basic human decency?

-90% Jimmy

[iloveObama12]

31. Fox News You're Hired...When Can You Start

smh at this lady

[otohara]

60. After She Loses The Baby Fat

blonde hair - done.

[MrMickeysMom]

33. "How dare you personally undercut"… what? My PUPPETEERing?

Nice… Play the woman card, Jennifer-with-a-J…. I'm a woman and I recognize an ignorant loud mouth puppet when I hear one. Have someone work with you as a voice coach. You squawk a bunch of crap about the governor in my state, for one… Plus, where the FUCK did you get that 130% of poverty nonsense?

What a fucking flake bag you are…

[ProfessorPlum]

35. I'm surprised no one has commented on incomes of $95k getting Medicaid

that's a whole lot of loud, ignorant, crazy right there

[BeatleBoot]

36. Americans for Prosperity trying to bridge the Right's woman voter deficit...

By trotting out a straw man screamer.

It was pretty pathetic on their part, she offered NOTHING to any civil discourse, just blathering screaming and large nostrils flaring - you know the routine - playing to their core constituents who haven't any ideas nor clue in their noggin.

Paid Right Wing Shill...er....I mean Shrill

[Dustlawyer]

37. She was trying to make the Progressive Host into a sexist man!

The Faux outrage makes me sick. No, her career is not over, she has been on these before and will be again. Conservatives loved that shit, and some Independent women might have swallowed her BS, but the poor and UN-insured and Progressives did not!

[Gothmog]

38. This lady is a real jerk

[mtasselin]

39. Pity me

Attack, Attack and Attack again when you get called out on your bullshit. Chris please don't ever have that women on again she has her agenda and gets paid a lot of money and is not going to let the facts get in the way. We have to stop giving these people a platform.

[onehandle]

40. 'I'm a mother! I'm a mother!'

Hack.

[truckin]

42. 133% of the poverty line = $90,000? What BS. nt

[freebrew]

44. New math...?

Or that voodoo stuff raygun spoke of?

[blackspade]

43. It's hard to have a conversation with someone who doesn't stop talking

I think the lack of oxygen has burned her brain out.

[NRaleighLiberal]

45. ignorance on parade. not worth listening to more than 30 seconds of her garbage spew.

[dotymed]

46. 2 things about these idiots IMO.

1. She wants her 15 minutes even though it shows the world what a fool she is.

2.TPTB deliberately use these "people" to keep our minds occupied and not thinking about the REAL problem with our economy/lives.
TPTB are the entire problem. We live in a feudal society. No real hope. Nothing to see here....

[crim son]

47. Ummm, I grossed $24K in 2013

and I do not qualify, not that it matters because our governor is a Republican teabagger who is fighting the expansion with everything he's got. And Ms. Stefano is the one who played the gender card, not Hayes. Stupid woman. Why she was given air time baffles me.

[cynzke]

48. A Good Defense is Offense....

Talk loud and fast. Hopefully we won't notice no facts.

[louis-t]

51. Saw it and yelled at the tv.

Poor, abused repug victims. Ever'body always pickin' on them. She made a fool of herself. She claims:

1. 133% of poverty level in PA is $94,000 a year.

2. Nobody else has 'facts' like she does.

I gave up after that, my blood pressure started going up. I give Chris Hayes credit, I would have tried to slap that woman.

[90-percent]

54. The Gish Gallop

my facebook post cut and paste for du. Nice her guesting methodoolgy is identified and defined. Hopefully this excellent phrase will become a standard term in our political discourse. Oh, look, the three conservative guests on Fox and Friends are Gish Galloping the token progressive again.

For all my anti-Obamacare Facebook friends, could you please at least upgrade the quality of your shills? Your interests are not well served by this woman's abuse of the "Gish Gallop." Is there anything that came out of this woman's mouth that you agree with or has some basis in fact? Please, I'd really like to know. Her performance single handedly increased the public approval rating of the ACA five points by this performance alone! Thank her for me.

From the youtube comments section:

"The Gish Gallop is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments that the opponent cannot possibly answer every falsehood in real time. Sam Harris describes the technique as "starting 10 fires in 10 minutes."

She has this technique down to a science. There was not a single truthful coherent statement during the whole entire segment."

[butterfly77]

55. B---- Please!

Another filibustering CON.

[zebonaut]

56. Republicans don't process reality correctly, so they tend to get mad at things that aren't so.

[Leith]

57. I Agree with Everyone

She is a loudmouth obnoxious jerk.

The RawStory front page has a photo of her with her mouth wide open. It took me a few minutes to realize why it looked familiar.

[Katashi_itto]

58. Her tactic is called the "Gish Gallop"

The Gish Gallop is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent that the opponent cannot possibly answer every falsehood in real time. More often than not, these myriad arguments are full of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments - the only condition that there be many of them.

Examples are most commonly found in "list" articles that may claim to show "100 reasons for" something, or "50 reasons against" something. At this sort of level, with dozens upon dozens of minor arguments, each individual point on the list may only be a single sentence or two, and many may be repeats and vague re-wordings. This is the intention: although it is trivial amount of effort on the part of the galloper to make a point, a refutation may take much longer and someone addressing it may not be able to refute all points in short order. If even one argument in a Gish Gallop is left standing, the galloper will attempt to claim victory.

The term was coined by Eugenie Scott of the National Center for Science Education, named after creationist Duane Gish. Creationists are fond of it, see "101 evidences for a young age of the Earth and the universe" for example, which is perhaps the most stunning case. Sam Harris describes the technique as "starting 10 fires in 10 minutes."
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop

[KansDem]

59. Well, if I ever want to paint a room and want to scrap the old paint off the walls...

I'll just get Ms. Stefano to stand in the middle of the room and launch into one of her tirades.

Presto! Clean walls ready for painting!

[steve2470]

62. 1- Gish Gallop; 2- facts are wrong; 3- tea party activist

Jennifer, hang it up.

[steve2470]

63. I do wish he had cut her mic off

I'm so sick of watching the Republicans do Gish Gallop all over pundits and Democrats. Just so GD sick of it.

Whatever happened to you talk, I talk ?