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EarlG

(21,945 posts)
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 12:04 PM Mar 2014

Pic Of The Moment: It's Time To End Wasteful Welfare!



NYT's Kristof: 5 wasteful public welfare programs that should be stopped


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Pic Of The Moment: It's Time To End Wasteful Welfare! (Original Post) EarlG Mar 2014 OP
Oh goody 2pooped2pop Mar 2014 #1
I have never understood why capital gains isn't taxed at an equal or higher rate than earned income corkhead Mar 2014 #2
Because that would be unfair tclambert Mar 2014 #14
Oh, and in addition, capital gains and dividends don't pay Social Security taxes tclambert Mar 2014 #15
"the gamblin man is rich... pitchforx Mar 2014 #17
Don't forget the breaks they get with show horses. Frustratedlady Mar 2014 #3
and, if I remember correctly, breaks for luxury cars, including hummers. niyad Mar 2014 #25
As we bicker about our best choice for candidates there is something we should........ wandy Mar 2014 #4
All we need is Andy823 Mar 2014 #5
HEY REPUBLICANS! THESE ARE THE REAL PEOPLE ROBBING YOUR PAYCHECK!! Initech Mar 2014 #6
Didn't know about the yacht loophole. malthaussen Mar 2014 #7
I know a lot of people who live on boats. None rich. eallen Mar 2014 #9
The only person I "know" who lives on a boat is Travis McGee.:) malthaussen Mar 2014 #10
Just tweeted this pic to my rep and those challenging him SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2014 #8
Yeah, but someday I might own a private jet, a yacht, a hedge fund, a bank, and a big corporation... onehandle Mar 2014 #11
Just about everyday one radio channel polynomial Mar 2014 #12
That's at least 2 trillion over 10 years. AAO Mar 2014 #13
i call it "Supply-Side Socialism" n/t pitchforx Mar 2014 #16
I Get Your Point Ccarmona Mar 2014 #23
re: Pic Of The Moment: It's Time To End Wasteful Welfare! allan01 Mar 2014 #18
Why doesn't this post have the most recs of all the posts on this board? nt MADem Mar 2014 #19
Excellent Facts to Highlight and let people know what's going on with the Cha Mar 2014 #20
sigh... Rider3 Mar 2014 #21
Some companies should get to structure to avoid local taxes joeglow3 Mar 2014 #22
k and r for laying it out so neatly and succinctly niyad Mar 2014 #24
and let us not forget the billions in subsidies to the most profitable business in the world-BIG OIL niyad Mar 2014 #26
 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
1. Oh goody
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 12:09 PM
Mar 2014

I was going to try to put this into something small and printable in a sticker format, but this is already done for me. Wonderful. I will post them in my redneck town.

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
2. I have never understood why capital gains isn't taxed at an equal or higher rate than earned income
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 12:16 PM
Mar 2014

The fact that you have to pay more for money you worked for than money that worked for itself makes no sense to me.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
14. Because that would be unfair
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 06:18 PM
Mar 2014

to rich people.

Well, OK, actually it would be fair. But rich people don't like that, either. They only like it if it's unfair in their favor. And we get the tax laws they buy with their lobbyist money.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
15. Oh, and in addition, capital gains and dividends don't pay Social Security taxes
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 06:20 PM
Mar 2014

Apparently, EARNING your money is for chumps.

 

pitchforx

(49 posts)
17. "the gamblin man is rich...
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:06 PM
Mar 2014

and the workin man is poor, i ain't got no home in this world anymore"
........................................Woodrow Wilson Guthrie

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
3. Don't forget the breaks they get with show horses.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 12:47 PM
Mar 2014

I haven't read the rules in several years, but I think they have most issues covered. It got some publicity when Mitt was campaigning, but not enough.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
4. As we bicker about our best choice for candidates there is something we should........
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 01:04 PM
Mar 2014

keep in mind.

It is this type of inequity that the GOP fully supports.
Those that benefit form this type of inequity are the ones that supply GOP funding.
It is their bought and paid for front men that mislead people into working against their own best interest.

EOD.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
5. All we need is
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 01:26 PM
Mar 2014

Someone get a bill going to put and end to this kind of "wasteful" welfare, then force every member of congress to vote so there will be a record of those who continually vote to cut programs for the poor, but continue to push the "welfare" for the rich!

If you want to cut waste it's always best to start at the top and work down, not the other way around.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
6. HEY REPUBLICANS! THESE ARE THE REAL PEOPLE ROBBING YOUR PAYCHECK!!
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 01:31 PM
Mar 2014

The mom on welfare with three kids working four jobs just to pay rent? She's not the problem. Exxon Mobil which gets billions in free subsidies and makes money hand over fist? Yeah they're the real problem and why our economy continues to go to shit!

eallen

(2,953 posts)
9. I know a lot of people who live on boats. None rich.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 02:05 PM
Mar 2014

I knew a cabbie who lived in a small cabin runabout that wasn't worth more than a thousand dollars. He no doubt paid cash, since he wasn't credit worthy. And a preacher who lived on an old 26 foot sailboat, worth maybe $10K at most. A hippie couple who lived on a boat they had finished themselves. Theirs was worth a more, but it was sweat equity.

Boats are like caravans. Both categories include everything from "something rescued from the junkyard" to million dollar palaces. In both cases, the lower end are much more common than the upper end.

My own view is that the mortgage deduction should be eliminated entirely. It's more a boon to builders and bankers than to people generally. It encourages building bigger homes than otherwise, buying homes when it might be wiser to rent, and treating second homes as an "investment."



malthaussen

(17,187 posts)
10. The only person I "know" who lives on a boat is Travis McGee.:)
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 02:10 PM
Mar 2014

I agree about the mortgage deduction. All in the cause of getting people to spend more than they can afford.

-- Mal

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
11. Yeah, but someday I might own a private jet, a yacht, a hedge fund, a bank, and a big corporation...
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 04:23 PM
Mar 2014

You libruls just want to tax my future wealthinessocity.

Class Warfare!

polynomial

(750 posts)
12. Just about everyday one radio channel
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 04:26 PM
Mar 2014

With very often advertisements from Ed Shultz or Thom Hartmann says “ America owes sixteen trillion dollars that will never be paid back” then goes on to suggest the market will crash, and it’s only a matter of time when it happens. So buy gold to protect yourself. Yikes …let them keep their gold because you can’t eat it.

Sixteen trillion dollars got flim flamed to the one percent because I sure don’t have any of it. So my imagination looked around to see what that kind of money can buy. Sheesh

So, ladies and gentlemen of America we could have completely changed or modernize the American infrastructure two times with change left over.

A new infrastructure likely with everyone connected via the post office with fiber optics in new communications era, all being easier to create small business.

A technology example for the future just the other day I signed up to a free seminar to navigate the Library of Congress. We should have all material digitized so all bills in Congress can be automatically emailed to the electorate to be able to give feedback to our representatives. And have poling for American opinions done open online not secret stuff like they do now.

That would mean plenty of jobs, not big government but a smart government that is way overdue. All that would create jobs with a living wage and a good future could have been the big picture. So now all we get is a minimum wage raise, and a screwed up trade agreement. War as a probability because most American don’t know how to read the Constitution or bother to look at legislation to know 911 was fixed to profiteer.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
18. re: Pic Of The Moment: It's Time To End Wasteful Welfare!
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 07:41 PM
Mar 2014

end of the WEALTHcare system as we know it ,

Cha

(297,150 posts)
20. Excellent Facts to Highlight and let people know what's going on with the
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 08:13 PM
Mar 2014

Poor Corporations who are sucking off the American Government.

thanks EarlG & Nicolas Kristof

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
22. Some companies should get to structure to avoid local taxes
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 09:54 AM
Mar 2014

I got my b-hole shredded on here a couple weeks ago for pointing out what Amazon costs local governments. The disgusting thing was that so many here defended it because they got to buy shit cheap.

niyad

(113,259 posts)
26. and let us not forget the billions in subsidies to the most profitable business in the world-BIG OIL
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 10:11 AM
Mar 2014
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