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Ring of Fire's Mike Papantonio appears on The Big Picture with Thom Hartmann to discuss President Obama's Wall Street promises and failures.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)And nobody knows that for sure, except Obama.
But Holder still being in office is probably a very good clue.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...Battered Progressive Syndrome never see who's really abusing them as being in any way at fault.
- He's really got a heart 'o gold, it's his underlings always making him look bad!
imthevicar
(811 posts)Coming off holders hands and the potus' as well. They do everything they are suppose to.
elleng
(130,861 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)impossible to choose between the two for malfeasance. IMO Holder is incompetent, Duncan is malevalent.
elleng
(130,861 posts)he's competent. Duncan is horrendous, and unfortunately competent at that.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)elleng
(130,861 posts)rpannier
(24,329 posts)Holder doesn't come close
Esp with Panetta in the mix
elleng
(130,861 posts)supercats
(429 posts)Obama is a DINO. He can do sort of good on social issues but when it comes to the most important problems facing the 99% meaning financial issues he's bought and paid for by wall street. As is Hilary and and thats precisely why I won't be voting for her.
raindaddy
(1,370 posts)If another third way Democrat is nominated to lead this party, count me out as well.
Amonester
(11,541 posts)What do you think anyone needs to be successful at being elected President Of The United States of America?
Eggs?
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)10, but they still OWN HIM like they do almost all D.C. Politicians. Don't get me wrong, Obama did a lot of good, especially with what was opposed to him. I still want to believe that he would do all of the great things he promised, but for whatever pressure they still exert. He put their people in charge of our Financial system from the start despite what he said on the road in 08! They got the money they wanted with no strings attached while the people got nothing. We paid for the Housing crash despite being the victims. I guess they could threaten to ruin his great accomplishments or some such. There is some unspoken deal here we will never know in our lifetimes because of the raw power of all of that money and influence!
I am under no such compunction and neither are you! I say we fight to fix the mistakes of our generation! The oil companies are driving us to mass extinction. Our Freedoms are being spun backwards in time until we have no safety net, minimum wage, public education, child labor protections, or for that matter, any Labor protections. Look at what Hobby Lobby has done to women's reproductive rights! Men, those are in effect, your rights too that are evaporating without the pill, IUD's, abortion...
Fight to get the money out of our elections which will wrest control of our Representatives from their greedy, heartless paws. We can do it by fighting for Publicly Funded Federal, State, and Local Elections. Make the media, complicit in all of this as they too are owned by these same bastards, provide the campaign ads as a public service for using OUR AIRWAVES!
September 13th - November 4th (or as long as it takes) let's organize and hit the streets.
Everyone who cares about Women's and LGBTV equality, the environment, public educations, jobs, infrastructure, Social Security, Medicaid/Medicare, Veterans, all of the things we are fighting to keep can only be solved by doing this first. They will not roll over, in fact, they will fight much harder and nastier than OWS because this takes away their control! I am tired of the nay sayers and the ones who say that we will play into the hands of the Right who will out vote us in the Constitutional Conventions. There are more of us than them, we must have to motivate and mobilize. Aren't you tired of bitching about the same problems here, only to watch them get worse?
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)he just put on a good show in 2008. Now he has the Fan Club which refuses to see the truth.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)But hey, don't count him out yet. There's still time left for things to get worse in other federal departments, like energy (nukes!) or the SEC (another stock market income adjustment) or even the CDC could expose some more people to anthrax or maybe even Ebola!
And at least in the end we all know that Mr. Holder will make a soft landing on several Boards of corporations that he's
All's well that ends well, I always say!