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The gun safety group funded by former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg will air a dramatic television ad in three key states and Washington, D.C., on Tuesday to pressure key Republican senators to support new gun restrictions for domestic abusers.
The 30-second ad by Everytown for Gun Safety features a man trying to break into his ex's house with a gun as she frantically calls the police. The man kicks the door in, grabs the woman's crying baby and points the gun at the woman's head. The gunshot can be heard as the video cuts out and directs viewers to text a number for information about stopping violence against women.
Everytown plans to run the ad in Washington, D.C., New Hampshire, Arizona and Nevada on Tuesday, the day before the Senate's first-ever hearing on guns and domestic abuse. The ads running in the three states will ask viewers to urge their respective senators -- Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) or Dean Heller (R-Nev.) -- to back Sen. Amy Klobuchar's (D-Minn.) bill that would ban convicted stalkers and abusive dating partners from possessing guns.
While those three senators voted against the popular background checks measure that fell short of 60 votes in the Senate last year, Everytown has calculated that if they had voted for it, they would have had the support of their constituents.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/28/everytown-tv-ad_n_5628482.html
It's time to stop the violence against women.
randys1
(16,286 posts)This can rub two ways, we know many felons are non violent, many are minorities targeted by police.
While I am completely against guns in any form, if one group is allowed to have them, how can we keep them from another?
If your crime was domestic abuse or abusive dating partner as the article says, then you could and should keep guns away from them but what about the Black or Latino 19 yr old who gets arrested for selling pot and is now a felon?
I dont want anyone having guns but I sure as hell dont want the police to be armed like Robocop and certain others not armed at all...
MADem
(135,425 posts)They'll show a similar scene, with the guy breaking in, but instead of calling the police, the mother goes to the drawer and grabs her gun--then as the guy busts in the door with his gun, she shoots him dead, picks up the baby, and then calls the cops.
Those Republicans are scared shitless to piss off the NRA. They're going to fight back with the good guy gun argument. NH is weird about that stuff, almost paranoid. I don't think the ad will make the difference they hope it will--though I wish it would.
sheshe2
(83,639 posts)Sad but true, MADem!
MADem
(135,425 posts)Deliberately obtuse, they are!
samsingh
(17,590 posts)and common sense
and yet over the head of the nra
Sancho
(9,067 posts)This is my generic response to gun threads. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that werent secured are out of control in our society. As such, heres what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. Im not debating the legal language, I just think its the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because its clear that they should never have had a gun.
1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learners license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.).
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.
Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a drivers license you need a license to fish, rent scuba equipment, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)And the saddest thing is that some of the men who end up in jail or prison for threatening a spouse or police officer with a gun (or worse yet actually shooting them) or attacking their wives seem normal. If you met them, you would not think they were crazy or brutal. They just lose it. And if a gun is handy, they lose it with a gun.