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Velvet Revolution

(143 posts)
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 08:52 AM Oct 2014

JTMP: Paul Revere & the Raiders - "Indian Reservation (The Lament of the Cherokee Indian Reservation)"

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OCT 6, 2014 – Paul Revere who led the 1960s rock group Paul Revere and the Raiders passed away at his home in Idaho yesterday. Paul Revere played the keyboards, and especially the electronic organ, and it was the driving force on their huge 1971 hit song, “Indian Reservation (The Lament of the Cherokee Reservation Indian)”, where his organ holds the melody line and makes the song. The song was actually written by the great American songwriter John D. Loudermilk and was covered by 2 groups prior to Paul Revere and the Raiders recording it. The first time I heard that song I loved it. The song sang about the plight of the Native People of North America, and especially the Cherokee Nation, who were forcefully relocated under pointed guns by the US Federal government to march hundreds of miles on the “Trail of Tears” all the way to an Oklahoman reservation. Hundreds of Cherokee perished on the forced march, even children. The song talks about how the Native culture of making beads and their language were being systematically wiped out by Europeans.

Not many people know, but Native children in the early 1900s and up until the 1940s were forced to go to Native American Boarding Schools that forbid them to speak their tongue and forced Christianity down their throats. The movie “The Education of Little Tree” portrays a young Cherokee boy who had to go through this horrible practice. I highly recommend watching that movie.

Watch Paul Revere and the Raiders perform…okay lip sync…”Indian Reservation” below.

http://www.jtmp.org/2014/10/06/1960s-rocker-paul-revere-passes/


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JTMP: Paul Revere & the Raiders - "Indian Reservation (The Lament of the Cherokee Indian Reservation)" (Original Post) Velvet Revolution Oct 2014 OP
My mom never wore sleeveless blouses or bathing suits in public because catbyte Oct 2014 #1
Yes, very sad... : ( Velvet Revolution Oct 2014 #2
I don't understand why a Native American would ever set foot in a white mans church. It's almost brewens Oct 2014 #3
Only 4% of Native Americans identify as Christian for very good reasons. catbyte Oct 2014 #4
Really? I would have guessed it was very much higher. So they must have the idea I was brewens Oct 2014 #7
"I don't understand why a Native American would ever set foot in a white mans church. It's almost.." greiner3 Oct 2014 #15
The Lament of the Cherokee Reservation elftails Sep 2015 #19
Welcome to DU! nt TeamPooka Sep 2015 #20
The 1st Amendment didn't cover Indian people. cilla4progress Oct 2014 #5
Native Americans didn't get the right to vote until 1924. catbyte Oct 2014 #8
I know. cilla4progress Oct 2014 #9
Because 2naSalit Oct 2014 #10
"the illusion of exceptionalism" amuse bouche Oct 2014 #13
I was fortunate to work on Indian reservations cilla4progress Oct 2014 #18
RIP Paul Revere amuse bouche Oct 2014 #6
Christian sponsored genocide Cartoonist Oct 2014 #11
Excellent point amuse bouche Oct 2014 #12
Saw them while they were doing a lounge act in Reno about 1984. greiner3 Oct 2014 #14
Some of the first prisoners on Alcatraz were from the Hopi Nation denbot Oct 2014 #16
I have always loved that song. RebelOne Oct 2014 #17

catbyte

(34,333 posts)
1. My mom never wore sleeveless blouses or bathing suits in public because
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 09:12 AM
Oct 2014

she was self conscious about the scars on her shoulders & back from the beatings she took as a little girl from the Indian school she was forced to attend. My mom was born in 1924. The school she attended was run by the Catholic Church--needless to say, Christianity wasn't practiced in our home. In fact, my mom always said "Poop Paul". Actually, the last BIA boarding school in Michigan didn't close down until the mid-1970's. A friend of mine was one of the last kids forced to attend.

That is a VERY dark chapter in both the history of the Catholic Church and the United States government.

R.I.P., sir!

Velvet Revolution

(143 posts)
2. Yes, very sad... : (
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 09:22 AM
Oct 2014

Wow, I didn't know they were still running until the 1970s...incredible. I am sorry to hear about your Mother.

brewens

(13,538 posts)
3. I don't understand why a Native American would ever set foot in a white mans church. It's almost
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 09:48 AM
Oct 2014

like admitting they needed Europeans to come over here and teach them what they should believe. I would think they would prefer to only practice their ancestral religion. If they must believe, I would think God, the Gods or spirits were taking just fine care of them before they ever saw a white man.

Of course I think people invented all of that on their own all along.

brewens

(13,538 posts)
7. Really? I would have guessed it was very much higher. So they must have the idea I was
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 10:16 AM
Oct 2014

getting at or something close to it.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
15. "I don't understand why a Native American would ever set foot in a white mans church. It's almost.."
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 02:58 PM
Oct 2014

How about Blacks, Latinos and every other non-white ethnicity?

elftails

(1 post)
19. The Lament of the Cherokee Reservation
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 01:01 AM
Sep 2015

If you read 'The Lament of the Cherokee Indian Reservation' on this site, it explains that Indian children were forced by the Europeans to attend Indian Boarding Schools on their reservations and that "Christianity was crammed down their throats" so it certainly wasn't by choice.

cilla4progress

(24,717 posts)
5. The 1st Amendment didn't cover Indian people.
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 10:16 AM
Oct 2014

A special law, the American Indian Religious Freedom Act, had to be written to allow them to practice their own religions , in 1978.

catbyte

(34,333 posts)
8. Native Americans didn't get the right to vote until 1924.
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 10:26 AM
Oct 2014

Another little known fact from the U.S. government's dismal, heinous track record.

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
10. Because
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 11:08 AM
Oct 2014

it - the truth - doesn't serve the myth created to uphold the illusion of exceptionalism for the dominant culture.

I have taken classes in federal Indian Law which confirmed my personal speculations.

Point in fact is that for Native Americans most often our federal laws - some of which still stand from the 1800s - are the manner in which we, as a country, interact with Native Americans and their lives including foisting our form of governing upon them which they must embrace and put into practice in order for them to be recognized as a "tribe" who has the "right" to function as a sovereign (albeit a moving goalpost of definitions). When crime is committed on a reservation, for example, the FBI are the investigating agency - that is if/when they actually show up. When any law is formulated or a change in one of our laws regarding Native Americans is addressed, it requires one of three federal motions and those are: an Act of Congress; a SCOTUS decision/decree; an Executive Order from the president... that's it.

I know many Native Americans, have very close relationships with some and I completely sympathize with 99% of their grievances.

cilla4progress

(24,717 posts)
18. I was fortunate to work on Indian reservations
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 12:55 AM
Oct 2014

for 4 years, providing a free service through legal aid to tribal members to write wills, so they could pass their land (and personal property), as they wished, not as the law provided.

Today my co-workers scoffed at the notion that some are choosing to observe National Indigenous Day, instead of Columbus Day. I have to wonder how much they know about Columbus, and his actions in the "new world."

Thank you, Howard Zinn, for educating me.

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
11. Christian sponsored genocide
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 12:30 PM
Oct 2014

This is the reason the native Americans were destroyed. They were not Christians and they resisted conversion. Whenever some apologist for Christianity says something stupid like, "look at all the good things religion does," I always point to the Christian driven genocide of North and South America. There is no amount of good that can absolve such a crime. If Adolph hadn't shot himself, and instead began serving free soup to the surviving victims of WWII, would that make the Holocaust OK? Would anyone say, "look at all the good Hitler does?"

denbot

(9,898 posts)
16. Some of the first prisoners on Alcatraz were from the Hopi Nation
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 03:30 PM
Oct 2014

They were imprisoned for teaching there children their own culture, which is their religion.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
17. I have always loved that song.
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 05:42 PM
Oct 2014

But the Cherokees have some revenge now. They have the casinos that are profiting from the white man.

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