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Programmer under oath admits computers rig elections (Original Post) hue Nov 2014 OP
K&R valerief Nov 2014 #1
Oh, darn! DeSwiss Nov 2014 #2
but that cant be d.w.s. sayz that's stuff for conspiracy theorists belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #3
1 simple question SmittynMo Nov 2014 #4
+1 and read the Brad Blog LittleGirl Nov 2014 #9
We don't have paper trails. dfgrbac Nov 2014 #13
OMG, are you suggesting that money be spent to determine if our tartan2 Nov 2014 #14
And spending required revenue (at some point). Enthusiast Nov 2014 #15
We are already spending $$$ to make sure that poor people, Spanish speaking and Black speaking Hoppy Nov 2014 #20
I think they tried that in 2000 and we see how that turned out. n/t Jamastiene Nov 2014 #26
2000 ELECTION! This was in reference to Ineeda Nov 2014 #5
Nothing has changed in OHio. peace13 Nov 2014 #6
Yes. Paper ballots and UN observers. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #16
If it's a felony to vote illegally skip fox Nov 2014 #7
That makes sense to me…. midnight Nov 2014 #23
Ya but we can't talk about somebody that does good work in this field Omaha Steve Nov 2014 #8
Electronic voting machines sulphurdunn Nov 2014 #10
And if you manage to rig slot machines in Vegas... BeanMusical Nov 2014 #27
Britain only votes with hand marked and hand counted paper ballots. Blue Idaho Nov 2014 #11
As does Canada I think. ~nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2014 #12
If we are interested in preserving democracy, that is. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #18
Rigging is republican for Turbineguy Nov 2014 #17
Precisely. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #19
King Lincoln Bronzeville Neighborhood Association v. Blackwell lofty1 Nov 2014 #21
This becomes more obviously clear. Election computers are being feed codes and those midnight Nov 2014 #22
Everything is As Intended. nt NorthCarolina Nov 2014 #24
k & r ! n/t wildbilln864 Nov 2014 #25
 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
2. Oh, darn!
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:39 PM
Nov 2014
- I'm sure the DOJ would've investigated this if they'd have only known about it. Whoops.

K&R

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SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
4. 1 simple question
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:54 PM
Nov 2014

Has anyone ever compared the paper trail to the actual reported numbers? EVER?

One would think that would be the first thing you would do when testing a program. DUH...

I would also think that this would be done prior to ANY election. A small sampling of 2K should do it.

OK, so we just had an election. Hire someone to compare the numbers. Let's see how accurate they are.

Inquiring minds want to know.

 

dfgrbac

(418 posts)
13. We don't have paper trails.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:10 PM
Nov 2014

Many, maybe most of our current voting machines do not have paper trails. In my opinion, this is outrageous!

tartan2

(314 posts)
14. OMG, are you suggesting that money be spent to determine if our
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:18 PM
Nov 2014

elections are rigged! That would mean we have to spend money on our government! Which is something the "right" hates!

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
20. We are already spending $$$ to make sure that poor people, Spanish speaking and Black speaking
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:03 PM
Nov 2014

Americans don't vote. What the hell more to you want?

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
5. 2000 ELECTION! This was in reference to
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:41 PM
Nov 2014

Ohio voting machine software. That's not to say the same or similar B.S. is not still going on, but it's disingenuous to imply that this is a current situation or testimony. Your 'published April 18, 2011' is misleading, at best. I think it's hilarious that this You Tube was plastered all over the interwebs in November 2012, claiming the machines were rigged to favor President Obama. I bookmarked this exact clip way back when, for historical reference. Sorry, I don't have the exact date, but it's at least a decade old.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
6. Nothing has changed in OHio.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:05 PM
Nov 2014

Our own SOS deemed our machines to be easily hackable and was unable to rectify the problem before vacating her office mid term. Go figure.

We need Jimmy Carter and paper ballots. Why can't we protect our own elections?

skip fox

(19,357 posts)
7. If it's a felony to vote illegally
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:21 PM
Nov 2014

with the possible penalty of 5 years in prison, then writing code which will ignore hundred or thousands of votes should be worth several decades in prison.

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
27. And if you manage to rig slot machines in Vegas...
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 04:27 AM
Nov 2014

You'll more than likely get caught and end up in the slammer for a really long time.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
11. Britain only votes with hand marked and hand counted paper ballots.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:07 PM
Nov 2014

During the counting process - anyone can come and watch. To hell with the machines - we need to demand paper ballots and a supervised hand counting of all votes for each election. Period.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
18. If we are interested in preserving democracy, that is.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:24 PM
Nov 2014

The Righties® see democracy as an obstacle to get around.

lofty1

(62 posts)
21. King Lincoln Bronzeville Neighborhood Association v. Blackwell
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:44 PM
Nov 2014

That case was dismissed in 2012.

Remember the Republican IT Consultant from the 2004 election that was subpoenaed in that case?

http://www.projectcensored.org/12-mysterious-death-of-mike-connell-karl-roves-election-thief/

Nothing has changed.

Wonder why voting machines are still in use?

midnight

(26,624 posts)
22. This becomes more obviously clear. Election computers are being feed codes and those
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 12:33 AM
Nov 2014

codes are being written to provide certain outcomes.

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