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How are we going to have a General Strike if folks cant officially strike? By calling in sick to work. By school walk outs. And by disrupting the flow of Capital on Mayday.
6 Ways to Get Ready for the May 1st GENERAL STRIKE
http://occupywallst.org/article/6-ways-to-get-ready-may-1st-general-strike/
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)One big problem that we on the left have is we like to live in fantasy land. In that respect we're just as bad as the Freepers. We have grandiose dreams of mass movements, and we may see a reasonably large protest march here and there, now and then, but there won't be any general strike on May 1. It just won't happen. It's a pipe dream.
I don't say this to try to convince anybody that I'm right. I say this just to be on record as having said it. I don't need to prove it when events will prove it for me 12 days from now. And by this time next month it will be just as forgotten as the "occupy movement" is now. (Which I also predicted, by the way.)
Civilization2
(649 posts)Google for "Occupy" = About 25,000,000 results (0.22 seconds)
So the 25 million web hits is your definition of forgotten? Looks like you may just be an Eeyore,. .
marble falls
(57,010 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Something will happen. But it probably wont meet your definition of "it".
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)It will be somewhat different than it is today. Possibly a lot different, but more likely just a little different.
You can say "tomorrow will be almost like today" and almost always be right.
wxgeek7
(321 posts)....since your prior prediction (i.e. about Occupy) is wrong:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101723093
Cheers.
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)annm4peace
(6,119 posts)like the women's right to vote ?
LIke women's rights?
like the dream of ending child labor ?
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)that could be expressed in a sentence. The focus was clear and known to everyone both inside and outside the movements in question. There was a single, straight line connecting the desired action to the desired outcome.
Inside the OWS/99% movement there are dozens (if not hundreds) of different, conflicting ideas about what should be done and how, and outside the movement, nobody has the slightest idea what they are about beyond camping out in city parks.
The "movement" is too abstract and too unfocused to accomplish anything whatsoever. It has no single, focused, easy to express and, in theory at least, easy to implement goal: eliminate the practice of openly discriminating against people based on skin color; Allow women to register and vote; Prohibit children from working in factories.
In contrast, the OWS has a laundry list of desired outcomes but nobody has any idea how to arrive at those outcomes. Everyone knew how to arrive at the outcome "give women the vote" because the action was the outcome. OWS has lots of really good outcomes they would like to see, but without concrete steps, nothing will happen. And nobody can agree on which actions need to be taken, or whether those actions will or will not help reach the desired outcomes. They are trying to solve an immensely complex, multifaceted problem with the tools that have only ever worked for single-issue, simple straight-line problems, and never for changing the behavior of large dynamical systems.
The fact is, nobody has any idea how to safely change the behavior of such a huge, complex dynamical system as the world economy, especially not a diffuse band of campers with no special expertise in complex systems theory. The world economy is a chaotic system that could flip from one strange attractor to another even with careful manipulation by people who know something about how the system works. Let politicians or street protestors start forcing changes to the system and the whole thing will break catastrophically. That's like letting a committee of plumbers and shoe salesmen get together to perform open heart surgery. There's no way the patient will survive, let alone get better.
The world economic system has reached a critical point where the only way to fix it is radical simplification, and that will not happen voluntarily. It will, however, happen, and no matter what politicians and bankers and OWS tries to do to exert some control over the changes, the changes will be fast, chaotic, unpredictable, and will result in a radically simpler system that nobody will like, and that might well be even more unbalanced and unfair than it is now if it becomes as simple as a feudal system.
So, no. OWS doesn't have a chance of doing any good. Nor do politicians or economists. It's too late for that. The system is too complex to understand, and too complex to control any more. Radical simplification is the only possible outcome.
annm4peace
(6,119 posts)in the movement are veterans of the civil rights and women's movement. What i hear over and over again from these elders is that this movement is just beginning and forming and think it happening bigger and faster than the other movements.
I hold on to their experiences and knowledge and will continue to participate on Occupy.
like one of the other posters said.. it is better than sitting on the couch
teknomanzer
(1,868 posts)This upcoming election we will see a deluge of corporate money financing campaigns on both sides. The voice of a single citizen cannot match this money driven "free speech." Change will only happen when folks get their asses up off the couch to join the collective voice of their fellow citizens. Take action now or settle for nothing later. Occupy!
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)What will you say to yourself five years from now when you look back and realize you could have made a real difference?
annm4peace
(6,119 posts)or not.
Everyday Occupy movement in cities across the country and the world are making changes. They are stopping foreclosures, confront police brutality, holding mayors, senators, reps, governors accountable.
post some flyers.. talk to friends, family, and co-workers..