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Cheney Throws Bush Under The Bus:"He Was In Fact An Integral Part Of The (Torture) Program"
Reminder: George W. Bush Said The U.S. Didn't Use Torture
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L0oniX
(31,493 posts)It's patriots torturing folks
pinto
(106,886 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,697 posts)enough to take everyone down with him.
It is easy to collude with one another when you're on top of the decision-making ladder and control the media. From that vantage point you might think that your comrades will always remain loyal to the plan. But when it all starts falling apart and the one thing they had going for them-loyalty-no longer is the glue that holds them together, it will be impossible for them to see that what they were doing was anything but criminal.
pinto
(106,886 posts)Thanks.
Martin Eden
(12,858 posts)Cheney will likely be called upon by political talk shows to offer his wisdom on security matters for as long as his black heart keeps functioning, and GW can relax on his ranch and paint himself in his bathtub to his heart's content.
stage left
(2,961 posts)and evil, evil doing wastes of air, water, and space.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)All the people they killed in Iraq...all under fake and phony shit (WMD's). The money...oh, the money they wasted...just think of our roads, bridges, schools...
I say never forget but it seems that most Americans are only worried about Benghazi or O-bama Care.
christx30
(6,241 posts)how great it would be if he would testify against him in front of Congress or court? Now we just got to get the current administration to stop looking forward, and look backward somewhat to clean house.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)but Bush won't ever admit he didn't do anything or know anything. But
hell, no one would ever believe Bush was any kind of mastermind, would they?
KG
(28,751 posts)LittleGirl
(8,282 posts)zebonaut
(3,688 posts)bush would make a fine cellmate
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Reagan was just the better actor.
Dick Cheney was always the real criminal.
7962
(11,841 posts)I blame that bastard for Iraq and all the mess that followed. I really think Bush was lied to like the rest of us and believed what he was told. Cheney Cheney Cheney.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)remember Dick Cheney was the head of George bushes VP vetting party. And in the end Dick Cheney decided he was the best choice to be the vice president for George Bush. Go figure.
7962
(11,841 posts)dickthegrouch
(3,172 posts)Please, pretty please.
easychoice
(1,043 posts)but not them...
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)ffr
(22,665 posts)Are we to feel sorry for him, that Cheney was the president and W was the puppet patsy all along?
Just to be safe, put them both on trial. Better yet, put their whole administration on trial. We all know it, they're guilty of war crimes.
staggerleem
(469 posts)... waiting for ANY of those trials. They won't happen - not in Cheney's lifetime, not in Dubya's, not in yours, or mine or our great-grand-children's.
I'm beginning to think that it might actually be the best thing for President Obama to issue them both pardons. Because, at the very least, if they receive pardons for their War Crimes (if they are pardoned, their offenses MUST be specified), they will go through the rest of their lives with the label "War Criminal".
Otherwise, they just slide. As things stand now, their histories can, conceivably, be whitewashed, and they could be buried with honors, rather than in shame.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,107 posts)C Moon
(12,212 posts)I really hope Cheney is losing sleep now.
staggerleem
(469 posts)... that demonic manifestations, like "The Cheney", REQUIRE sleep!
DocMac
(1,628 posts)Welcome to DU.
staggerleem
(469 posts)... that a former President of the United States, while actually in that office, may have fibbed to the press, and thereby, to the American people.
But we ALL know that that CANNOT POSSIBLY have happened, don't we?
TRoN33
(769 posts)Of course Cheney clan would screw their own friends in order to either save their asses or promote their asses like Liz Cheney did to her friend during the primary election.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)easychoice
(1,043 posts)George! Get your lies straight baby!
samsingh
(17,594 posts)shine the proper light and we'll see a pool of blood surrounding them
glowing
(12,233 posts)DVD torture. Probably even suggested some even more grotesque items to try out on people.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)I'd like to take a date to their execution....
Derek V
(532 posts)since, for 8 years, Cheney was The Bus.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)northoftheborder
(7,571 posts)"We have never used torture". He very plainly said, a year after torture was authorized, "we DO NOT torture." Present tense. Perhaps they stopped then, perhaps not. But Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, at least, and probably many, many others, in my opinion, authorized these practices that have come to light. There may be many other horrible tactics which are in the original full report.
underpants
(182,719 posts)Yes the full 6,000+ page report surely has lots of more and more heinous incidents. But considering how this report was put together even the full report doesn't contain but a 1/3 of the crimes that went on.
The is a post in DU - 12 things to know about the report- that shows that there were no interviews, contractors got to go through emails before the investigative and when the did get access it was at one computer in one location, etc in
czarjak
(11,260 posts)"Oh, duh."
toothgrisle
(1 post)Bush is stupid enough to let Cheney throw him under the bus! Cheney is the real mastermind behind all of it (Bush's Brain), and he is playing the part of the "happy warrior" (sorry HH) because he knows that no matter, he is untouchable (and Eric Holder will back that up). He would be more than happy to fall on his sword, but he doesn't have to.
IkeRepublican
(406 posts)You know damn well Bush would go to jail while Cheney skates.
It's the American way - nail the go-alongs and sponge bath the culprits.
Initech
(100,054 posts)Satan has a special VIP room in hell waiting just for them.
slingsam
(370 posts)polynomial
(750 posts)Another Republican dilemma and the Russians maybe rolling in choice Metadata files Snowden released in the wiki files.
Its my guess but way too long the Snowden scandal has been too silent, something is going on. As Bush said money trumps peace.
It is my hunch Snowden will roast Bush and Cheney via supplying the Russians with valuable emails that suggest Bush as close friends of the Arab Bin Laden family did commit to special favors.
Special torture for those certain individuals, not to save lives, but to profiteer via oil deals to torture in very cruel ways to make Arab oil money
The Arabs wanted special people to talk and confess crimes against the Royal family.
Many call that treason, trading with the enemy
underpants
(182,719 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)He probably feels, strongly, that fingers are going to get pointed at his snarling visage before too long. He probably also feels that there's not a lot of love in DC for him. Dumbya actually has a better rep, because he's had the good sense to stay the hell out of politics since he left the WH. He hasn't gone out of his way to be critical or second-guess.
Some of you may remember that old Caspar received a PARDON from George H. W. Bush .... before he was even convicted of anything!!!!
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=20265
The story goes that old Cap said "If I go down, I'm taking you with me!" And thus, GHWB got out his CLEMENCY pen!!!!
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)LOL!
santamargarita
(3,170 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)pivot to see how Obama can be blamed for this.
The entire world is talking about this and laying this right at Bush's feet (as is apparently Dick Cheney!). It is just beyond me how minutes after the report was released, DU immediately began screaming at the current president (the one who ended the practice) while being ASTOUNDINGLY quiet about the last president (the one who started it)
Number23
(24,544 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)NBachers
(17,096 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)But it is almost sad that he was simply a means for Dick to play king. Of course, what scares me about Jeb is that, unlike Dubya he actually WANTS to be king, and would engage in crap just to yell at Darth vader down the hall and say "See, I do not need you, stop breathing down my neck Dick!" And of course, heart attacks happen, and I would NOT put that past Dick, especially if jeb Picks Liza cheney for the running mate.
tavernier
(12,374 posts)I think that bumper sticker would even curdle some republican blood.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Liza Cheney's overtures to the LGBT community were a trial balloon, taking advantage of the fact the Democrats have dragged their foot. How much you wanna bet that if Liza goes for it, she flashes both her gender "See, I am a woman too!" and the fact that she is slightly less hateful of LGBT than the rest of the party..
tavernier
(12,374 posts)I thought that Dick himself would want to get in on that ticket! After all, he has a storage unit full of beating hearts somewhere in an underground bunker, and the backing of Chuckie Todd and all the Meet the Press boys to give him plenty of tv air time!
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Dick is not stupid enough to be put into any official position of power. He will simply wait until the right sock puppet comes along.