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Related: About this forumCross Talk: United States of Torture (Amy Goodman)
I know many here do not approve of RT. If you don't like it, I suggest you don't watch and save those who do see some redeeming value from the negative assessments. Amy Goodman is at the top of her game in her calm rebutals. imho I agree with her completely.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Lee Camp is on RT.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Last edited Sat Dec 13, 2014, 10:34 AM - Edit history (3)
It's a Great Watch for all DU Dems of the "Old School." Those who remember when Our Party Stood for Workers and the Commons! AND...Truth and Justice in our LEGAL system for ALL.........
uhnope
(6,419 posts)or did she just tarnish her credibility for free?
zeemike
(18,998 posts)It was a total mismatch of wits.
Mister blue suit-white shirt-red tie could only repeat the talking points and try to look strong.
drynberg
(1,648 posts)By the facts. Of course torture is wrong and those responsible need to face Justice, or if this ain't gonna happen, I flinch at the harm that will come to so many Americans and others. This is serious as cancer, man.
newthinking
(3,982 posts)SamKnause
(13,091 posts)Fred Fleitz is a liar.
He looked like a deer caught in headlights.
What a sickening display on Fred's part.
Thank you Amy Goodman.
Thank you Ray McGovern.
Fred does not represent me or my country.
Fred represents Fox 'News' and all those who support torture and criminal activity.
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)a negative place lately since I didn't check on them until now. I thought the OP would be trashed by RT haters....so this is quite a welcome surprise.
uhnope
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KoKo
(84,711 posts)The USUAL American TV Cable Crap.
It's still a Good Watch ..for INQUIRING MINDS.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)Ten:
1. One to deny that a light bulb needs to be changed;
2. One to attack the patriotism of anyone who says the light bulb needs to be changed;
3. One to blame Clinton for burning out the light bulb;
4. One to arrange the invasion of a country rumored to have a secret stockpile of light bulbs;
5. One to give a billion dollar no-bid contract to Halliburton for the new light bulb;
6. One to arrange a photograph of Bush, dressed as a janitor, standing on a step ladder under the banner: Light Bulb Change Accomplished;
7. One administration insider to resign and write a book documenting in detail how Bush was literally in the dark;
8. One to viciously smear #7;
9. One surrogate to campaign on TV and at rallies on how George Bush has had a strong light-bulb-changing policy all along;
10. And finally one to confuse Americans about the difference between screwing a light bulb and screwing the country.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)noted that the CIA operatives who committed torture should have been allowed to confront their accusers.
He is right. That is a constitutional right in the US. It is an innate right that we recognize as part of the basic rights that must be granted when we grant due process.
But due process including the right to face their accusers was precisely what the CIA and other torturers (military torturers and torturers in the rendition programs) refused to their captives, to their suspects. There were no trials. There were no lawyers. There was no protection against self-incrimination. No due process, no rights of prisoners at all, and above all, no protection against cruel and unusual punishment.
George Washington admonished his troops against torture although the British and especially the Hessian mercenaries tortured, cruelly tortured our American soldiers during the Revolution. This is established in the book, Washington's Crossing in which the author tells us that a surprising number of the Hessian soldiers who were our captives and our enemies during that war came to America to live. That we did not torture them although they tortured our soldiers may have won their respect and trust. We gained friends because we did not torture.
I suppose that the British viewed our revolutionaries as nothing more than terrorists. History has shown and our Constitution proves that they were idealists who wished more than anything to create in the new world a new society that recognized the inherent dignity in each person.
The torture program is a betrayal of George Washington's leadership in our honorable revolution. It is a betrayal of the due process guaranteed in our Constitution.
Republicans argue that due process need only be granted within the US. Due process is a fundamental right. It is the basis of liberty. We should show by example that due process and liberty are not just our rights but the rights of citizens the world over.
The Republicans, I suspect, will issue their own torture report once they are in charge in the Senate. I suppose it will be, like the arguments of Fred ..l... unsupported by evidence. Fred ...... could have cited one instance in which the torture actually revealed new facts. I believe that the report now out shows that the intelligence Fred . . . . cited such as the information about Bin Laden's whereabouts was not learned through torture although it may have been corroborated by torture.
I hope that the Republicans who justify and approve of the torture do not at the same time claim to be Christians. Jesus was very explicit: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
If we do not want others to torture our soldiers and our agents, we should not torture theirs.