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1monster

(11,012 posts)
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 05:24 PM Feb 2015

Rescuing Mufasa; or the difference between rescuing a dog and a cat.

One thing I can't help noticing in every rescue video Eldad posts is that the dogs are almost immediately grateful and show instant adoration to their rescuers.

We've been feeding Precious, a mostly feral cat for two years, and she had only just began letting my husband pet her. On her terms only. She really enjoyed being touched. My son and I were able to touch her only one or two times and just that, touch her.

Then, as fall was closing in, my husband decided he wanted her to come into our entrance hall (which is long and narrow). He wanted her to have a warm place to sleep on cold nights.

So I started putting her food on the porch, then just inside the door. She would come in and eat only if the door was left open behind her. I got the plate of food half way down the hall. Then, one late afternoon, my husband opened the door when she came to be fed and he lured her in. Somehow, he closed the door behind her just as I opened the inner door to bring out her food.

Precious, startled, ran into the house and has since made it clear that she is not leaving. She has taken over (and is in the process of destroying the rug) a loft that we haven't used in about five years... A knee problem I have makes going upstairs difficult, but downstairs darned scary. She only comes down at night when she thinks we are asleep and runs back up if she sees us up.

My husband is making the trek upstairs most days now (she likes him) to pet her and try to get her willing to come down with the rest of us. It will take time. She has already been in the house for about three months and is even more stand offish than she was a few weeks ago.

She doesn't seem to be in good health, but I cannot take her to the vets until I (or my husband) can pick her up...

Meanwhile, all Eldad has to do to get unreserved devotion from his rescue dogs is feed them cheeseburgers and give them a bath...

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Rescuing Mufasa; or the difference between rescuing a dog and a cat. (Original Post) 1monster Feb 2015 OP
Cats are still wild animals, sort of. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2015 #1
I once adopted LiberalElite Feb 2015 #11
I've had "epic experiences" of gettting perfectly tame domestic kitties into the 1monster Feb 2015 #12
The funny thing is - LiberalElite Feb 2015 #14
Actually this method really works beautifully.... maddiemom Feb 2015 #15
HA! LiberalElite Feb 2015 #23
I think I'm the biggest DU cry baby for rescue videos Omaha Steve Feb 2015 #2
I'll share my kleenex with you, if you like. Arkansas Granny Feb 2015 #3
Could you please pass me the box, too? ColesCountyDem Feb 2015 #5
You are, you really are. DRoseDARs Feb 2015 #17
Come to think of it, I have the opposite problem with Animal Planet channel. DRoseDARs Feb 2015 #18
That's a heartwarming story. zeemike Feb 2015 #4
{{{Doggie}}} shenmue Feb 2015 #6
Feral cats are tough and some never become "housecats" BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #7
Thank you... Precious has a notched ear, so I assume she has been spayed 1monster Feb 2015 #9
The notched ear is a good sign BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #10
I'm the chuck wagon... my husband is the massuer. 1monster Feb 2015 #13
You are so right. Curmudgeoness Feb 2015 #8
Hope For Paws lumberjack_jeff Feb 2015 #16
Awwwww. He ended up in a great place with LOTS of love. Triana Feb 2015 #19
Eldad found guilty of abuse/abandonment of his "rescued" dogs. Divernan Feb 2015 #20
Thanks. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2015 #21
DAMN!!!! This is really distressing, if true. However, the link you provided is 1monster Feb 2015 #22
Iwish they would lose the music. Dollface Feb 2015 #24

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,659 posts)
1. Cats are still wild animals, sort of.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 05:52 PM
Feb 2015

They haven't been domesticated nearly as long as dogs, and if they don't get a lot of human contact as young kittens they can revert back to a semi-wild state. A feral cat can be tamed and re-domesticated, but it might take awhile.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
11. I once adopted
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 08:36 PM
Feb 2015

a feral kitten, who had been born in the parking lot outside my apt. building. Chloe was between 6-9 months old at the time. I gradually got her used to being picked up and held for very brief periods, but that was the extent of any contact. Chloe never became a lap cat, or even a sit-next-to-you cat. She was happy to be in the same room with me, maybe spend some time sitting on a shelf of the cat tree. She slept on my bed but stayed down by my feet. She always kept her distance, and getting her into the carrier for vet visits was always an epic struggle for which I'd have to "suit up". I'd sometimes jokingly ask her if she was adjusting to the amenities of fine living, like having a roof over her head and regular meals.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
12. I've had "epic experiences" of gettting perfectly tame domestic kitties into the
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 09:29 PM
Feb 2015

cat carrier... They knew they were headed to the car and then to the vet's when carriers came out, and some of them weren't having none of it without a fight.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
14. The funny thing is -
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 09:37 PM
Feb 2015

some cat care books I've read say leave the carrier out, let the cats get used to seeing it around like part of the decor - sure. Somehow this is supposed to make them more amenable to being put into the carrier. HOWEVER if they see you move it they know EXACTLY what's going to happen. I usually move the carrier the night before to the bathroom when no one's looking.

And as for Chloe - a little thing at around 5 pounds but when I tried to get her into the carrier she put up such resistance she seemed to grow another 4 limbs.

Are you familiar with Simon's Cat cartoons on YouTube? They're only a minute or two in length but they're in the process of creating a full length feature titled "Off to the Vet" LOL

http://www.simonscat.com/Blog/2014-08-07/Off-to-the-Vet-Story-Inspiration/

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
15. Actually this method really works beautifully....
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 12:49 AM
Feb 2015

UNTIL the first time that you close the door and pick the carrier up.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
18. Come to think of it, I have the opposite problem with Animal Planet channel.
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 02:30 AM
Feb 2015

When I used to watch TV I had to skip over it. Almost without fail if I stopped, that fucking Animal Cops show would be on and I'd just get enraged. Animal cruelty, I can't fucking even.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
4. That's a heartwarming story.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 06:24 PM
Feb 2015

To see a dog that is clearly stressed out and depressed bloom again.

It gives me hope for the world to know there are people out there who do care in this increasingly uncaring world.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
7. Feral cats are tough and some never become "housecats"
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 07:18 PM
Feb 2015

But many people think that means they can fend for themselves which is not true. The domestic housecat is not a wild creature AT ALL. Ferals live short, hard lives and if they are not fixed, the males will fight brutally and the females will have litter after litter until they are worn out. I take care of a feral colony in my neighborhood and have noticed that there are plenty of other people near me taking care of their own little colony. I get all the cats I can find spayed or neutered and then release them back to their area. Cats, unlike raccoons which can eat anything, need meat exclusively and there are not enough rodents or other creatures around a city or a suburb for them to survive.

What you are doing for Precious will give her comfort and keep her from starving, freezing or being attacked. Even if she doesn't sit on your lap or let you pet her, you are doing the very best thing.

Dogs on the street are usually abandoned so they revert back to housepets fairly quickly. I have never seen the equivalent of a feral dog rescued with a happy ending.

Whatever you have to do to keep a cat safe and fed is a truly kind thing. You and your husband are heroes in my book!!

1monster

(11,012 posts)
9. Thank you... Precious has a notched ear, so I assume she has been spayed
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 07:33 PM
Feb 2015

Somewhere along the line (especially since she hasn't had kittens in the two years she's been coming around). We've rescued lots of cats over the years. Precious has been the biggest challenge so far.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
10. The notched ear is a good sign
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 08:16 PM
Feb 2015

That means someone in your area is doing trap and release which really helps to keep the feral population in check. I am lucky that in Southern California, I don't have to worry about my cats suffering from weather. They live in a foreclosed house that the bank has uglified by putting up a 12 foot chain link fence, but I see the cats lounging around in the backyard so they have their own sanctuary.

I have been successful adopting out any kittens I find and even abandoned pets that people just put out on the street and never claim. I have had two gorgeous (I mean stunning) Bengals come through that I just can't believe someone didn't want. Both went to great homes. That is my absolute favorite part. We do have lots of traffic and coyotes in the hills, so every night I am happy to see my core group of cats show up to eat.

She may come around once she know she is safe. Plus your husband is the chuck wagon so that always helps to bring them around. Good luck with her and best to you both.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
8. You are so right.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 07:31 PM
Feb 2015

Dogs do always seem to get so loving and sweet so easily. I have a feeling that there are videos that they don't show us though, so we are convinced that it is always this way. That video made me cry, just like every video Paws For Hope puts out.

I have also adopted feral cats in the past. Luckily I did not have them get loose in the entire house before they were more tolerant of me. There was not one feral cat that I helped that ever got to be as nice as these dogs do, but they did get good enough for me to enjoy having them around. Good luck.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
19. Awwwww. He ended up in a great place with LOTS of love.
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 04:31 AM
Feb 2015

Amazing what a difference a little love and care makes. Sweet pup!

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
20. Eldad found guilty of abuse/abandonment of his "rescued" dogs.
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 09:45 AM
Feb 2015

I'd never heard of Eldad until reading this thread. When the link for the OP's video didn't work, I googled Eldad and found this: http://thegoodthebadtheunforgivable.blogspot.com/2013/12/hope-for-paws-eldad-hagar-abandoned.html

Please read this whole link. It is shocking. After reading this, I've concluded it's much better to give to local shelters with transparency/visibility, than Eldad.

Keep animals and good rescues alive. Say no to dirty rescue and greedy impostors that have perfected the art of manipulation. Before donating to anyone, RESEARCH. Don't be afraid to ask questions before donating. Speech is still free, use it. If you're met with hostility, insults or simply ignored...Heed the warning signs and take your money elsewhere. Beware the rescue posting weekly drama filled stories with horrific photos designed to guilt you into donating. Be kind but be smart.


Hope for Paws- Eldad Hagar Abandoned over 100 Dogs after Collecting Thousands in Donations
 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
21. Thanks.
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 11:49 AM
Feb 2015

As noted upthread, they made more than $2 million in donations in 2013. They are primarily video producers.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
22. DAMN!!!! This is really distressing, if true. However, the link you provided is
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 12:57 PM
Feb 2015

The only one I could find in two searches... Is there another source that you found?

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