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Hillary Clinton is the Most Qualified Presidential Candidate Ever (Original Post) circlethesquare Apr 2015 OP
Maybe, if you ignore John Kerry. nt tridim Apr 2015 #1
Lest we forget... yallerdawg Apr 2015 #2
"On paper" merrily Apr 2015 #3
Yea, paper that documents IHateTheGOP Apr 2015 #4
His words. merrily Apr 2015 #6
"holding a job does not mean being great at a job." Exactly. antigop Apr 2015 #18
Holy Shit father founding Apr 2015 #5
That's only because I decided against running for POTUS. Wilms Apr 2015 #7
Desperate times call for desperate measures Geronimoe Apr 2015 #8
Qualified for what? swilton Apr 2015 #9
She's an impeccable warrior libodem Apr 2015 #10
They never heard of RFK? n/t A Simple Game Apr 2015 #11
Just checking to see if that was The Onion. n/t Martin Eden Apr 2015 #12
An absurd assertion. Hyperbole combined with a basic ignorance of history RufusTFirefly Apr 2015 #13
Yep - see my comment right below yours (nt) Proud Public Servant Apr 2015 #15
Yes! And your stated conclusion makes my intimation explicit. RufusTFirefly Apr 2015 #16
You know who had among the very best pre-presidential resumes? Proud Public Servant Apr 2015 #14
The claim is bullshit, but at least she was an excellent lawyer, right? RufusTFirefly Apr 2015 #17

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
2. Lest we forget...
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 10:58 AM
Apr 2015

FOB Al Gore? "Losers" really do become a footnote in history, don't they?

These guys are pretty young so maybe they don't remember, but 'most qualified candidate ever' is not real reassuring. The Clinton dynasty 'heirs' don't seem to have a real good track record. 0 for 2 so far?

Just sayin'...

 

IHateTheGOP

(1,059 posts)
4. Yea, paper that documents
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 11:02 AM
Apr 2015

Paper that documents real life experience and accomplishments. Oh, by the way, which Repuggie running is even sane?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
6. His words.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 11:09 AM
Apr 2015

His point was that holding a job does not mean being great at a job.

Nor does a weak resume mean being lousy at a job. For example, Lincoln had a pretty weak resume for POTUS.

Some of the items on his list were silly though.

I'm pretty sure if Laura Bush were running for President, no Democrat would be citing "President of the Young Republicans Club in College, First Lady of a state, First Lady of the United States, "knows every inch of the White House."

And acting as though being President of the Screen Actors Guild and Governor of California were no biggies was weird.

US Senator and Secretary of State are indeed great credentials on paper, though. No once can dispute that.

antigop

(12,778 posts)
18. "holding a job does not mean being great at a job." Exactly.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 08:05 PM
Apr 2015

Look at Carly Fiorina -- ex-CEO at HP.

Look at what she did to HP.

That doesn't make her qualified to have another CEO job....or any job, for that matter.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
7. That's only because I decided against running for POTUS.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 11:31 AM
Apr 2015

I knew the Iraq WMD story was a bunch of BS. And I knew going to war would destabilize the region...not just Iraq.

Therefore, and it should be obvious, I am more qualified for the job.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
8. Desperate times call for desperate measures
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 11:34 AM
Apr 2015

First Lady of Arkansas makes her qualified?

Just saying, on paper Sarah Palin was qualified also, too. U-betch ya.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
10. She's an impeccable warrior
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 12:12 PM
Apr 2015

And we might need her big guns to beat JEB.

I don't care how Wall Street Secretary Clinton, is compared to having Barbara Bush be the Matriarch of the country. I can't stand that cold hearted creature. Save us from another Bush Dynasty.

Perish the thought.


PS. I like David and Lewis. I love the back and forth. Nice guys.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
13. An absurd assertion. Hyperbole combined with a basic ignorance of history
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 03:02 PM
Apr 2015

I hate to say it, but what about this guy?

  • Member of the House of Representatives
  • Ambassador to the United Nations
  • Chairman of the Republican National Committee
  • U.S. Envoy to China
  • Director of Central Intelligence
  • Director of the Council on Foreign Relations
  • Vice President of the United States
  • Proud Public Servant

    (2,097 posts)
    14. You know who had among the very best pre-presidential resumes?
    Tue Apr 14, 2015, 03:05 PM
    Apr 2015

    John Quincy Adams, James Buchanan, and George H.W. Bush.

    You know who had among the least impressive resumes?

    Abraham Lincoln, Harry Truman, and Barack Obama.

    Qualifications are fine, but it's character makes a great president.

    RufusTFirefly

    (8,812 posts)
    17. The claim is bullshit, but at least she was an excellent lawyer, right?
    Tue Apr 14, 2015, 03:38 PM
    Apr 2015

    Wrong!

    In 1990, the National Law Journal ran profiles of “the 100 Most Influential Lawyers in the United States”. Hillary Clinton was on the list, and for years she would publicly boast that the Journal had named her one of “the nation’s 100 top lawyers”. Finally, the editor of the National Law Journal, Patrick Oster, wrote to Arkansas’ first lady–as she still was in 1991–testily pointing out that the word “influential” is not synonymous with “top” or “best”–the latter two words used by Mrs. Clinton interchangeably.

    By “influential” the Journal’s profile writer, Peggy Fisk, had meant a lawyer plentifully endowed with corporate and political connections, which Mrs. Clinton certainly enjoyed in Arkansas where she had become a partner of the Rose Law Firm in 1977, amid the dawn of her husband’s political career as he began his terms as governor of the state. By the late 1980s, Hillary Clinton was sitting on the board of Wal-Mart, with the rest of Arkansas’ business elite crowding her Rolodex. Hillary ignored Oster’s letter of correction, instructing her staff to continue to use the word “best” in invoking the Journal’s profile. She continued to do so for years. Oster was still writing her a decade later about her misuse–including an editorial column in the Journal in 2000, when she was running for the U.S. Senate.

    In fact, Mrs. Clinton was not a particularly good lawyer and would have had trouble making any honest list of the 100 best lawyers in Little Rock. In their political biography, Her Way: The Hopes and Ambitions of Hillary Rodham Clinton, Jeff Gerth and Don Van Natta Jr. tell the story about the National Law Journal and also probe her lawyerly skills when she was at Rose Law. She only tried five cases and confided to Vince Foster–another Rose Law partner–that she was terrified of juries. So Foster had to accompany her to court. Because of her lack of prowess in the courtroom, she had to make her way at Rose Law by working her connections as the State’s first lady to bring in clients, and even then her annual partner’s share was mostly below $100,000–the lowest in the firm and very small potatoes for one of the hundred most influential lawyers in America.


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