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LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Mormon church reports spending $180,000 on Proposition 8
op officials with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints filed reports today indicating that they donated more than $180,000 in in-kind contributions to Proposition 8, the November ballot initiative that banned same-sex marriage in California.
The contributions included tens of thousands of dollars for expenses such as airline tickets, hotel and restaurant bills and car-rental bills for top church officials such as L. Whitney Clayton, along with $96,849.31 worth of compensated staff time for church employees.
The church said the expenditures took place between July 1 and the end of the year. The churchs involvement has been a major issue in the campaign and its aftermath. Individual Mormon families donated millions -- by some estimates more than $20 million -- of their own money to the campaign.
On top of that, some Prop. 8 opponents say church officials violated election law by failing to file campaign disclosure reports outlining church funds being spent on the campaign. Fred Karger, who filed a complaint with the Fair Political Practices Commission after the election alleging that church officials had not properly disclosed their involvement, said he thought todays filing proves that his complaint has merit.
when you post from a blog, you know the information should be suspect until researched...
there were requirements of the State of California and the federal government in reporting the amounts donated either for or against Prop. 8. The courts had the actual amounts provided to them as well...
those against Prop. 8 donated twice as much in dollars than those for Prop. 8...
many other faiths donated far more than the LDS...
Interesting to note that in California there are about adult 8 gays/lesbians for every single man, woman, and child that is LDS... what a huge voting block...
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)First, other faiths donated too. The point of the post was that the Mormons also spent alot of money to help take away civil rights.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)tanyev
(42,541 posts)but that's just me.
In 1997, Time magazine estimated church assets totaled "a minimum of $30 billion." Richard and Joan K. Ostling in their 1999 book Mormon America put a "conservative" estimate of total assets at $25 to $30 billion, noting that it was likely "well beyond that." Though the church criticized Time's calculations as excessive, according to the Ostlings, it "did not provide even the vaguest hints as to what was wrong and what the truth might be."
The church also manages a large amount of commercial investments, mostly through its Deseret Management Corporation. The Ostlings estimate revenue from those enterprises at $600 million annually and describe the holdings:
"Their enterprises range from a $16 billion insurance company to perhaps $6 billion in stock and bonds, if not more. There's a $172 million chain of radio stations (seventh-largest in the country). The church's more than 150 farms and ranches, including America's largest cattle ranch, make it one of the largest landowners in the nation. The farms and ranches encompass somewhere in the neighborhood of 1 million acres, roughly equal to the size of the state of Delaware."
The church's religious buildings and property, while included in the asset estimates, are considered expenses and not sources of revenue. The church also channels significant funds into humanitarian work; it claims annual donations in the tens of millions of dollars and activities in 147 countries.
http://www.pbs.org/mormons/faqs/structure.html
marble falls
(57,063 posts)have what is called the "Bishops' Storehouse" where food and other supplies are for the use of anybody from any walk can draw from, supplied by the churches farms, canning factory, and I know that Bishops will give cash to folks stranded on the road, fix cars, build homes pay rent for non-members. Romney may be 8 types of an ass (or more), but the Church lives its precepts better than most churches do, http://www.lds.org/haiti-relief/relief/homepage.htm
Lets face it, Prop 8 isn't a charity, but most mainstream churches contributed to Prop 8, as their right as it would my mine to contribute against it (and I will) if and when it hits the ballot or legislature here in Texas.
Knock the LDS for legitimate things, but charity really might be the wrong area to do it in.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDS_Humanitarian_Services
http://www.lds.org/haiti-relief/relief/homepage.htm