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Who To Believe On The TPP? Obama Or Warren - TMFS Sketch (Original Post) matthewf May 2015 OP
65-33 turbinetree May 2015 #1
He did it in secret for six years? Stellar May 2015 #5
Amy Goodman turbinetree May 2015 #10
Is one of the only people we can believe . orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #17
Yes................. turbinetree May 2015 #18
So your premise is that one of them is lying? George II May 2015 #2
So what do you think? nm rhett o rick May 2015 #3
I think ............ turbinetree May 2015 #11
Who do you believe Obama and McConnell or Sen Warren and Sen Sanders? rhett o rick May 2015 #4
+ 1000 !!! orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #9
Corporate Fascism Geronimoe May 2015 #13
The ' Great Business Plot ' is still going on today, and if Jeb orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #16
I'm not sure who I believe yet. nt Stellar May 2015 #6
so this is bullshit. fuck. i was actually listening, to hear both sides. for MORE bullshit here seabeyond May 2015 #7
What about just no BS? yallerdawg May 2015 #8
Sen Warren is not tellling the truth when... ImaPolitico May 2015 #12
Isn't there some rule that penalizes anyone for revealing what's in it? nikto May 2015 #15
With a gun to their head not to utter a word of it . orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #20
I trust Bernie over Obama on TPP, for sure nikto May 2015 #14
A note to the President... bayareaboy May 2015 #19

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
1. 65-33
Thu May 14, 2015, 05:44 PM
May 2015

Well they just had the re-vote on this piece of outsourcing legislation, job cutting, whatever you want to call it and guess what, here it comes we the people just got the big one.
And as for trust it's not the president----------he did this in secret and for 6 years .
I called Cardin and Mulkulski and on this vote and was told Cardin was a NO.
Mulkulski was just a ok.




Stellar

(5,644 posts)
5. He did it in secret for six years?
Thu May 14, 2015, 06:30 PM
May 2015

I could be wrong but I really thought it was always in secret.

What Is the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPP)?

The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) is a secretive, multinational trade agreement that threatens to extend restrictive intellectual property (IP) laws across the globe and rewrite international rules on its enforcement. The main problems are two-fold:


https://www.eff.org/issues/tpp


turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
18. Yes.................
Fri May 15, 2015, 08:01 AM
May 2015

I try to watch her as much as I can, she is very good, and has in depth analysis of the material

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
11. I think ............
Thu May 14, 2015, 09:42 PM
May 2015

that as a collective in this legislation we deserve and have the right to know what is being discussed, not after the fact-------------its called principles.

I think that if Philip Morris can do the following then I have a concern:

http://www.iisd.org/itn/2011/07/12/philip-morris-v-uruguay-will-investor-state-arbitration-send-restrictions-on-tobacco-marketing-up-in-smoke/

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
16. The ' Great Business Plot ' is still going on today, and if Jeb
Fri May 15, 2015, 05:12 AM
May 2015

gets the control switch we're done, and Hillary would still be " Fascist Lite " . Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and Alan Grayson are the people trying to save us .

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
7. so this is bullshit. fuck. i was actually listening, to hear both sides. for MORE bullshit here
Thu May 14, 2015, 06:34 PM
May 2015

on du ALL the time. fuck this shit

ImaPolitico

(150 posts)
12. Sen Warren is not tellling the truth when...
Thu May 14, 2015, 10:48 PM
May 2015

Sen. Warren says she does not know what is in the TPP. Of course she does. She is not telling the truth. It's there for our leaders to read.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
15. Isn't there some rule that penalizes anyone for revealing what's in it?
Fri May 15, 2015, 04:10 AM
May 2015

Perhaps she is just avoiding repeated questions on content she is not allowed to answer.

(A pretty outrageous and UN-democratic rule, IMO).

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
20. With a gun to their head not to utter a word of it .
Fri May 15, 2015, 08:53 PM
May 2015

And Senators Warren, Sanders, and Grayson are the only three who have had enough courage to give us the essence and more details than the President or ANY other government ANYBODY. So to say the lady isn't being truthful is a li--- inacurate .

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
19. A note to the President...
Fri May 15, 2015, 11:22 AM
May 2015

If you want people to follow you, don't tell them it is a secret for them to see what you are trying to do.

Up to now, I have felt that you told people the truth, not anymore.

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