Pepper Sprayed for giving the finger

[zebonaut]

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[daleanime]

1. kick...

[Buzz Clik]

2. This crap doesn't even vaguely rise above the baseline of "pure stupidity for the sake of stupidity"

"I am going to see if I can piss off a cop. Dare me?"

[SHRED]

5. Cops like this don't need to be dared

They are assholes anyway and need to fired. All the video did was bring it to the surface on video for proof.

[Buzz Clik]

7. Ugh.

Is this a bad cop?

Do we know why this jackass was pulled over in the first place?

There are some real huge problems out with cops that need correcting. This kind of silliness and needless harassment does not get us closer to a solution.

[SHRED]

9. He's apparently guilty of flipping off the cop

A protected act under the 1st Amendment.

If this holds true would you defend this cop's behavior?

[Buzz Clik]

10. With all the really gawd awful shit out there, this is how you want to spend your energy?

Choose your battles. This one is dirt stupid.

[SHRED]

12. spend my energy?

Not sure what you're getting at.

[Buzz Clik]

17. Good point. Whining on a discussion board is not an expenditure of energy ...

... nor does it ever accomplish anything.

[SHRED]

19. "whining"

Who's whining?

[Enthusiast]

22. If you disagree you are whining. I hear it from Limbaugh. He says the same thing.

[heaven05]

41. you really are wasting you time

with this one. Trust me. You're right. The guy in the video better be glad he's not black, I suspect 20 cars would have been called in for backup and he would probably be very injured now and in the hospital or dead.

[Quixote1818]

16. It's stupid because you just lost the argument. Your okay with someones arm being almost ripped off

when NO crime was committed? This is pretty simple, the guy may be a dick but under the law he is protected and a policeman abusing the crap out of someone is not trivial. The cop should be off the force as he has no self control.

[Buzz Clik]

18. "Your okay with someones arm being almost ripped off" LOL!

Whatever you say, chief.

Let's do this every day. Seems like a good use of resources.

[1monster]

25. You try doing that to someone and you will be arrested for battery. Just because the guy is a cop

does not mean he is exempt from the law.

Oh. Wait. I guess in this country it does mean he is exempt.

[A Simple Game]

45. Defending the 1st amendment is dirt stupid?

So what battle would you choose that is worthy of your superior attitude?

[Buzz Clik]

47. Please.

God, I love debating on the internet. You meet such .... interesting .... people.

[A Simple Game]

49. Interesting people? Not every time. So if we are debating, what is the answer to my question? n/t

[Buzz Clik]

51. The answer is (A)

[A Simple Game]

54. Well there you go, proof of what I said, not every time. n/t

[Buzz Clik]

57. You and I both understand the limits of the First Amendment.

It does not allow you to say whatever you want, whenever you want, and to whomever you please.

There is a very good chance that the asshole in the OP will get off because the cop's got nothing, but a dropped charges by a judge or DA will have nothing to do with the first amendment.

[A Simple Game]

58. If you could see through your monitor and out of mine, you would probably be calling that

very same cop to arrest me right now.

There you go, another example of not every time.

By the way your argument is with the Supreme Court, not me.

[Buzz Clik]

59. I see.

Now you've gone full-on juvenile.

[A Simple Game]

61. No it became obvious a few posts ago that you don't see. You have a nice day now. n/t

[SHRED]

3. Cops like this need to be fired

They cost us millions in payouts.

[rurallib]

6. I was hoping the defendant sues the shit out of them but you reminded me

that it is our tax dollars that are paying for this kind of behavior.
Since we are paying maybe we should have a say in the policeman keeping his job?

[jwirr]

14. The way to keep from US paying is fire them. If you are parent or a teacher do you wait until the

child kills someone before you act to stop the actions. That is what we have been doing with the police. Yes, giving the cop the finger was disrespectful - it matches the way the cops are treating people for mostly very small incidents. Jaywalking, selling cigs out of their own pack, giving the finger, running in fear, etc.

[Major Nikon]

11. Followup info...

Saratoga Springs police officer placed on leave as video surfaces
http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Saratoga-Springs-police-officer-placed-on-leave-6271855.php

http://news10.com/2015/05/19/saratoga-police-chief-releases-statement-after-second-video-release/

[libdem4life]

29. Translation of the last paragraph: "Who ya gonna believe, me or your lyin' eyes." That should

replace the "Protect and Serve" motto, except I've heard that phrase is almost extinct...right along with the concept, itself.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

36. "Downtown security cameras do not clearly capture the area where the traffic stop occurred"

Wonder if the cop forced him to stop in an area he KNEW wasn't monitored.

[jwirr]

15. Maybe but if we do not start somewhere they will simply continue their irresponsible behavior.

[Moostache]

4. Another cop who has ZERO business with a gun and badge.

These "cowboy" cops - who think that everyone around them owes complete fealty to them - need to be removed from every force in the country - even if that means we have no police until new ones can be properly trained.

[Enthusiast]

23. +1

[erronis]

33. But I worry that we ask the police to be more than human.

Everyone that has to deal with the public runs into unpleasantness. A cashier being scolded (or worse) by customer. A teacher or coach being berated by a parent. You and I just tooling around town and getting aggravated by another driver, a pedestrian, a stop light.

Rarely do we as normal citizens run into assholes that go out of their way to aggravate just for the sake of a photo-op and a blog post. I'm sure there are many of these situations that arise every day when on the beat and yet the police are supposed to not to take the unpleasantness personally.

I can see myself as some Officer Friendly if I were (can't anymore) to join a force. I can also understand how that rose-colored view of strolling down Main Street, Our Town would probably change quickly.

I don't know if we (police and populace) were ever better than we are now. Media/internet attention has definitely contributed to a negative view. I also don't know how to get us into a place where we can trust one another, at least a bit more. Perhaps it needs to start with trusting all levels of government...

[Moostache]

40. That may well be...but the resorting to violence (even when provoked) is inexcusable.

I agree that we have a corrosive element of our society, propagated on the right and through conservative media that blames government for every woe and seeks to capitalize on that distrust by convincing people to vote against their own interests. That is a very real threat to our society.

However, there is a world of difference between "taking a situation personally" and the actions of that officer in the video.

He was jacked up and fumbling at his utility belt from the moment he approached the vehicle. When he was challenged - LEGALLY - to describe the offense or violation of law to the person he was approaching he crossed the line from officer to sanctioned vigilante. There are procedures and laws that are to be followed and upheld.

Police officers who feel that the public owes them subservience under penalty of summary judgment, assault and potential blindness are unfit to hold that public trust. Period. This is becoming a sad American phenomena - the killing and/or attacking of unarmed civilians. To say nothing of what happens if the guy in that car was black instead of white...its got to end and end fast.

[valerief]

62. +1000

[Jackpine Radical]

8. It gives new meaning to that old bumper sticker--

If you don't like cops, the next time you're in trouble, call a hippie.

Hell yeah, man. That hippie'd whip out his Freon-free atomizer of patchouli oil and have the situation calmed down in no time.

[1monster]

27. Considering the number of stories I've seen on DU alone about people calling police for help and

ending up beaten, arrested, shot, and/or killed because the police either didn't understand the situation or didn't care to find out what was going on, I think it would be safer call the hippie and "his Freon-free atomizer of patchouli oil."

[libdem4life]

31. You forgot the crimes of engaging eyes and running. Ugh, patchouli...that would take weeks.

[Jackpine Radical]

35. You misunderstand the proper use of Patchouli oil.

It is used to cover the scent of the hippies' Magical Medicine from which emanate the vibes of peace.

In this era of vapes, perhaps the Patchouli is less necessary, but traditionalists use it anyway because of all its healing associations.

[libdem4life]

37. Oops...there went my San Francisco creds. LOL Learn something every day here...love it.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

38. Oh sure, because that's the ONLY other alternative to stormtroopers.

[jwirr]

13. A denial of freedom of speech.

[RoccoR5955]

20. So this cop is given a paid vacation instead of posting bail! Unreal! n/t

[whereisjustice]

21. corrupt cops are bringing this shit on themselves, breeding hate & fear just like 3rd world police

[Enthusiast]

24. +1

[Buzz Clik]

26. Are you saying the cop in the video is corrupt?

[whereisjustice]

28. Are you saying that i'm saying the cop in this video is corrupt? The only way to know for sure is

charge him with an attack on a civilian, jack him up on a bunch of additional charges, collect thousands of dollars in fees and fines and throw him in jail to wait for trial.

Then we can all relax and let the investigation take its course.

[libdem4life]

32. Bingo!

[Buzz Clik]

34. Somewhere in all that is your answer, which I assume is "no."

And I agree -- this cop shows no sign of corruption.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

39. Unless you consider meglomania to be a form of corruption.

[Buzz Clik]

43. What about hypochondria? Agoraphobia?

Necrophilia? Lipophilicity?

Are those forms of corruption, too?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

53. Necrophillia is....

It really stinks of corruption.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

44. Um. Yeah. He charged someone with disorderly conduct for flipping him off.

Making up charges because you have a case of diaper rash is the textbook definition of corrupt..

[Buzz Clik]

46. That is NOT the textbook (or any other) definition of corruption.

Try again.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

48. Lying on a police report is not corruption? In what world?

[Buzz Clik]

50. Look it up. Quit being intellectually lazy and disingenuous.

See ya.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

52. Lol. "Look it up" = you ain't got shit. I figured as much.

https://m.

[Buzz Clik]

55. I have knowledge of the definition of corruption, which you clearly lack.

But, we knew that already.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

60. You apparently have a limited knowledge of the definition of corruption.

It doesn't always involve bribery or personal gain. And the gain doesn't have to be monetary (see: lying on a police report to get revenge)

Is English your second language? I'm asking because sometimes it takes longer to pick up on nuance.

Sure, the video in the op demonstrates many things (assault, battery, denial of civil rights under color of law, police brutality) but corruption, especially when a sworn police report is involved, is an apt description.

Webster:
corruption
noun cor·rup·tion \kə-ˈrəp-shən\
: dishonest or illegal behavior especially by powerful people (such as government officials or police officers)

: the act of corrupting someone or something

: something that has been changed from its original form
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Full Definition of CORRUPTION

1
a : impairment of integrity, virtue, or moral principle : depravity
b : decay, decomposition
c : inducement to wrong by improper or unlawful means (as bribery)
d : a departure from the original or from what is pure or correct
2
archaic : an agency or influence that corrupts
3
chiefly dialect : pus
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[brewens]

30. Since I've never called the cops when someone flipped me off, I suppose I'd

expect them to just deal with it and let it go. I wouldn't blame them for calling in the plates to check for warrents just in case, but that's all he should have done.

Are there usually local ordinances against foul language or obscene jestures? If not, I'm kind of surprised.

[Politicalboi]

42. He should have ran away

I love how he gets out of his car and taunts them.

[olddots]

56. I really wish I hadn't watched that .

[Madmiddle]

63. More proof that cops act out of malice.

Quite intentional, but above the law...