Jon Stewart: is Bernie a loon?

[NorthCarolina]

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That is all.

[leftofcool]

1. No, he isn't and that is just Stewart being funny.

[djean111]

2. From elsewhere on DU this morning....

He (Jon) says that we have become so accustomed to politicians who are so scripted, so insincere, so unauthentic etc, that when we see someone like Bernie, honest, authentic etc. HE looks like the one who is strange.

Bernie was the only candidate he spoke well of. For that segment he received a huge round of applause.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

3. Good. That helps make up for his prior segment essentially writing Bernie off as a joke. nt

[djean111]

5. I know the exact segment you mean, and that is why I missed this last night! nt

[NorthCarolina]

6. The segment above

is priceless to the Sanders campaign. I never cease to be amazed how The Daily Show can put so much into focus in such short segments.

[merrily]

11. +1 More than once, too.

At one point, Jon was snickering as he showed videos of Bernie speaking that had been doctored to include some critter or other running across the screen.

Really? The Daily Show had to manufacture a lame video in order to ridicule him?

Jon has been a mild gadfly to Democrats at times, but, overall, he has been faithful to the party line. The party line has been that Hillary shall be the nominee, and Jon has acted accordingly.

I give him all the props for being smart, funny, beyond talented, etc. But, independent and objective he has not been.

[Fast Walker 52]

21. I agree- that other segment was disappointing!

[arcane1]

24. I was hoping for that. I can't wait to watch the new stuff.

Jon was quite uncool about Sanders last time I saw him mentioned.

[NorthCarolina]

4. It really is a terrific segment; funny as hell

and spot on in it's assessment. It almost seems as though Jon stopped just short of a full out endorsement of the Sanders campaign. Or did he (stop short)?

[TM99]

7. That segment is really going to help Sanders.

Authenticity versus staged optics.

Did Hillary Clinton literally speak in a feigned southern accent in South Carolina?

I was born and raised in the south, and I really hate when people not from the south try to ingratiate themselves by putting on a faux southern accent. I rarely trust that person after something that laughable occurs.

[NorthCarolina]

8. I agree

100%.

[merrily]

12. oh, yes, she did.

She once also equated being a Democratic Senator with a Republican majority with working on a plantation.

People who actually worked on plantations might beg to differ.

Reminded me of Clarence Thomas's comparing being questioned by the Senate Judiciary Committee for a seat on the Supreme Court of the United States to a lynching.

[NJCher]

13. no, she didn't

That is a manufactured media incident--manufactured by the right. That part is taken out of context. If you watch what she said right before and after, you'll see what I mean.

I know because we studied it in a college class I was teaching at the time. The part I was teaching was mirroring (interpersonal communication). I have to go now, but I'll try to come back later and explain a little more.


Cher

[TM99]

14. Mirroring?

I am a psychologist. That was not mirroring. That is called pandering...no matter what the context. She is not southern. I am sure my Scottish friend would love me to mirror his language by speaking to him a feigned Scottish accent.

[NJCher]

18. did you look at the videos?

Until you've done so, you are unqualified to speak on the topic.

There's this thing called context.

On the internet, no one knows you're a dog....


Cher

[TM99]

20. I saw them.

I disagree with your position. I do not think the 'context' warrants such pandering.

Likewise....

[kenfrequed]

27. Huh

I guess Sanders is somehow immune to that mirroring effect. Does that qualify as a Super power?

Or is it more likely that a polished politician with a horde of handlers and consultants would follow their advice to play up on similarities in order to create the impression of identification with the people they are speaking to?

I won't say that there isn't the possibility of some mirroring going on but I will suggest maybe that 'handling' is a more likely explanation than 'mirroring.'

[arcane1]

29. Maybe that's what happened to Romney's make-up person when he went on Hispanic TV?

[TM99]

36. Mirroring is a subtle process.

You might match a persons posture, speed of speech, breathing, etc. Generally it is done one on one. Copying someone's accent is definitely not mirroring. To say so is to be hardcore into rationalizing a pandering behavior as ok.

Handling? Sure. Clinton is a classic pandering politician. She hopes that the low information vote will see the optics and not look at what's always underneath.

[Fast Walker 52]

22. yes.... though not clear whether she did that just for a minute as a gag

or talked like that the whole time.

[swilton]

23. Same here

I moved out of OK about 40 (+/-) years ago and people still can tell I have an accent...but I can detect a feigned accent either by Hollywood or politicians...

Sanders comes off as genuine.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

30. Ever hear, "Take the rag out of your mouth"?

[Dustlawyer]

9. Bernie NEEDS to go on his show! It would be great exposure and he would do well, of course!

[arcane1]

25. Now that you mention it, I don't recall ever seeing him on there.

I've seen him on the Nightly Show, and Real Time, but never TDS.

He would be a hit!

[daleanime]

26. Definitely!

I'm kind of amazed if he hasn't been on.

[bullwinkle428]

10. HUGE K&R for this. I was totally fired up about seeing DU's reaction to this piece

as it unfolded last night.

[NorthCarolina]

16. Me too,

especially the reaction to 'Hillary as a Southern Belle'; authentic vs inauthentic part of the segment.

[HenryWallace]

15. First Official Iowa Visit

Someone seems to be taking him seriously!

Sanders made his first official visit to Davenport, Iowa last night. They hoped for 200 people, the got over 500!

PS: We also had two Republicans in town:

Rand Paul showed up and got around 100.

Rick Santorum got around 50

[gordianot]

17. A few months from now media can complain how they underestimated him.

Of course it will be others underestimated him.

[historylovr]

33. It was packed there.

They had to open up the rest of the room. And Bernie seemed really pleasantly surprised. He joked about spending his twenty-seventh wedding anniversary with half of Iowa.

I just hope they cleaned The Machine Shed really well after Santorum left.

[appalachiablue]

34. That's great to hear, happy for Bernie and proud of the attendees!

[Fantastic Anarchist]

19. "Authenticity Comes Across as Lunacy"

Exactly.

[benld74]

28. Hell Raygun was 69 when he took office, not that far off from 73,,,,,

[Spitfire of ATJ]

31. There is only 6 years difference between Bernie and Hillary.

[appalachiablue]

35. Bernie's brother is 80 and still going strong-

[silverweb]

32. He's definitely "unusual."

[center][font color="navy" face="Verdana"]"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
-George Orwell

[font color="purple" font size=5 face="Comic Sans"]Go, Bernie![/font]

[madfloridian]

37. Your video link quit working. Found another one.