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Pic Of The Moment: Dear North Carolina (Original Post) EarlG May 2012 OP
And they will live to see the day when the SCOTUS tells them sinkingfeeling May 2012 #1
The SCOTUS is pretty conservative, I'm not quite NorthCarolina May 2012 #2
Which has me scratching my head - Hestia May 2012 #4
+1 Voice for Peace May 2012 #16
Its a marathon, not a sprint dr.strangelove May 2012 #5
What kills me is they are taking away rights that some companies willingly offer LynneSin May 2012 #3
And I am thankful for that. jwirr May 2012 #6
Our natural rights are not subject to majority rule...... suston96 May 2012 #7
Tom Toles: Anti-Gay Marriage crowd's days are numbered. Literally! Sarcasticus May 2012 #8
+1,000,000 Auggie May 2012 #10
Thanks Sarcasticus May 2012 #12
It's a sad fact of human nature that it takes so long Auggie May 2012 #15
And my son and his friends - Smilo May 2012 #13
They may be physically dying off, but their poisonous mindset isn't. HughBeaumont May 2012 #19
Yep. pinto May 2012 #9
Yep. And that's a good thing! one_voice May 2012 #11
The sign rocks. Liberals rock. We are the future. nt ZombieHorde May 2012 #14
Wow. I'm so glad I spent time and effort fighting this in NC... Tunkamerica May 2012 #17
You're in good company ... dougolat May 2012 #18
Same with all us 'knuckle-dragging Floridians' Ineeda May 2012 #20
Thank you Tunkamerica! ncgrits May 2012 #21
I logged off of the site for 2 weeks because of this and was dreading Tunkamerica May 2012 #22

sinkingfeeling

(51,431 posts)
1. And they will live to see the day when the SCOTUS tells them
Wed May 9, 2012, 12:06 PM
May 2012

to take it out just like they did in Loving v. Virginia!

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
2. The SCOTUS is pretty conservative, I'm not quite
Wed May 9, 2012, 01:22 PM
May 2012

as confident as you that they would in fact strike any anti-gay laws down.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
4. Which has me scratching my head -
Wed May 9, 2012, 01:40 PM
May 2012

how can any state deny a group of people access to the/their constitution? How can this be legal on any plane, and why hasn't anyone sued against it? A group of people can't be picked up by anyone else, so why/how do laws like this go into effect? Constitution is what the gov't can't do to us and is not to be used as a bully pulpit against anyone (as natural born citizens we are born with rights, the gov't doesn't give them to us).

Isn't this just posturing and pandering until someone has the guts to actually take this to the SCOTUS? It still flabbergasts me how the teabaggers can get 'laws' like this on the ballot in the first place. WTF are these Attorney Generals?

dr.strangelove

(4,851 posts)
5. Its a marathon, not a sprint
Wed May 9, 2012, 01:43 PM
May 2012

Scalia is 76 and Kennedy is 75. There is a future in sight without these two on the court. Obama NEEDS to win and hopefully at least one of these two will leave the Court during his second term. Ginsberg will possibly not last on the bench for another term either. The next 12 years should see those three and Breyer leave the bench. If we have the senate and white house, we could easily overturn these insane hateful actions. Its why we simply HAVE to win.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
3. What kills me is they are taking away rights that some companies willingly offer
Wed May 9, 2012, 01:35 PM
May 2012

My company has offered 'domestic partnership' benefits long before the state offered civil rights to same sex couples. The NC law now says that my company cannot cover same sex couples and honestly, I think that is just shit.

I also weep for the hospital visitation rights. If these teabagging assholes want the government 'minding their own business' then what right does the government have with telling someone who they can and cannot have visit them in the hospital? I know love is an powerful healing tool - why should a person be stuck with family members where there could be bad blood when instead they could have a loving partner there by their side.

suston96

(4,175 posts)
7. Our natural rights are not subject to majority rule......
Wed May 9, 2012, 02:27 PM
May 2012

The USSC knows this but it will do nothing about it as it sees state after state amending state constitutions to deprive a selected group of their citizens of their natural right to pursue their individual happiness.

The Bill of Rights in the US Constitution is incomplete and what is enumerated therein is vague and open to conjecture and misapplication.

It will take a USSC with courage and intended justice to strike down all those state constitutional prohibitions against the individual right to pursue and achieve goals of happiness enjoyed by all citizens.

Where did I get that "Pursuit of Happiness"? Try the US Declaration of Independence. It comes after "Life and Liberty."

 

Sarcasticus

(41 posts)
12. Thanks
Wed May 9, 2012, 02:55 PM
May 2012

Toles is great. And your has emboldened me to make it a thread in General. (Only 20 posts tho: It might get locked.)

Auggie

(31,125 posts)
15. It's a sad fact of human nature that it takes so long
Wed May 9, 2012, 06:55 PM
May 2012

for bigoted opinion to change. Toles nailed it. As Steve Jobs said, "Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent."

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
13. And my son and his friends -
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:03 PM
May 2012

(about 18 yrs) - are all saying - is it wrong that people loving each other are wanting to get married - NO - they all say - there is absolutely nothing wrong with this - get over it people.

Tunkamerica

(4,444 posts)
17. Wow. I'm so glad I spent time and effort fighting this in NC...
Thu May 10, 2012, 02:33 AM
May 2012

Just to be lumped in with people who voted for it.

Why don't you make a graphic that thanks the people who worked so hard and are so very disappointed and who actually live here and are going to suffer the consequences? Does it make you feel somehow more tolerant to do this instead? Or do you actually care?

I'm sure Buncombe (Asheville), Chatham, Dare (Outer Banks), Durham (Durham), Mecklenburg (Charlotte), Orange (Chapel Hill), Wake (Raleigh) and Watauga (Boone) counties and all the hundreds of thousands of people who voted against it also enjoy being counted as one homophobic person.

I'm sure the polls that show that the majority of NC'ers were against a constitutional amendment (but unfortunately not likely voters) were wrong. I'm also sure that the 10% of people polled who thought voting for the amendment meant voting for marriage equality were lying to the pollsters.

It passed by 500,000 votes. There are over 9.5 million people in NC.

It is sad. We are very disappointed. But, this lame excuse for a "graphic" minimizes all the work that some very good people did trying to fight this thing which came from some very well-funded and organized groups outside our state.

First time I've wanted an unrec button in a long time.

dougolat

(716 posts)
18. You're in good company ...
Thu May 10, 2012, 04:47 AM
May 2012

..think of Californians after the Prop 8 loss, South Dakotans and Kansans after every women-enslavement issue, or for that matter, ALL of us getting branded blood-thirsty maniacs after the 2004 national election.
Thank you for your efforts, being on the right side is all we get sometimes.

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
20. Same with all us 'knuckle-dragging Floridians'
Thu May 10, 2012, 07:30 AM
May 2012

who fight the imbeciles every damn day. Just think about the walls we have to scale: pRick Scott, Rubio, and Jebbie-boy waiting in the wings -- just to name a few.

ncgrits

(916 posts)
21. Thank you Tunkamerica!
Thu May 10, 2012, 09:12 AM
May 2012

It's bad enough that we worked and worked and it still passed, but then fellow (and apparently far-superior) Democrats pile on. I did not vote for Amendment One. In fact I don't know anybody who did. So well done us! And we'll keep fighting the good fight.

ncgrits
Hillsborough, NC

Tunkamerica

(4,444 posts)
22. I logged off of the site for 2 weeks because of this and was dreading
Thu May 24, 2012, 06:39 AM
May 2012

coming back for fear of negative responses but I had 3 positives and no negatives. Apparently that comment killed the thread.

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