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mother earth

(6,002 posts)
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 09:29 PM Aug 2015

Computer Voting and Stealing Democracy (TRNN)



Published on Aug 25, 2015


Larry Wilkerson says, that computerized voting has increased the capacity of cheating with precision, consistency and efficiency without any forensic evidence.

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http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=14545

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We've always had cheating, even Wilkerson admits it's something the GOP loves. Cheating runs rampant, is more sophisticated now, without any trace, how convenient. Please give him a listen.
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icarusxat

(403 posts)
1. Ask for a paper ballot at the polls and see what happens...
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:02 PM
Aug 2015

I did that last election and the entire polling staff reacted as though I was a potential terrorist. I stood there and listened as they queried one and other, asking if I was belligerent, should they call 911, and other such nonsense. I told them I just didn't trust the machines and wanted a paper ballot. I live in THE red state, and I can only imagine what kind of blue scare they put into the poll workers minds. Extra round of adult diapers might be in order next election day...

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
3. Trouble is, many paper ballots are not counted and/or disposed of in various ways. They've got
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 11:14 PM
Aug 2015

the techniques down, and they use all of them. There is no election where we get the real count. Just like the markets, everything is manipulated, where it can be done, it WILL be done.

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
2. Kansas
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:37 PM
Aug 2015

And now its being reported that the Sec State in Kansas and his dealing with a lawsuit on this issue and of course its a republican

http://americablog.com/2015/08/mathematician-actual-voter-fraud-kansas-republicans.html

And what is our party trying to do and say on this ISSUE

http://www.protectourelections.org/

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
4. TY. Let me know when we get somewhere on this. I just don't see it happening. We are owned.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 11:19 PM
Aug 2015

OR I should say, THEY are owned, from the machines to the enablers...TY for the links. We had huge outcries after Gore & Kerry's stolen elections, and I believe the midterms & primaries are all targeted too. Without this being a priority, nothing will come of it. It serves the oligarchs, just like our gov't.

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
6. Your welcome..................
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 08:43 AM
Aug 2015

I am asking my election officials and legislature here in Maryland to get rid of the machines if they can do it in Oregon and now getting legislation passed in California and possibly Washington why not here.
Oregon uses paper ballots they are mailed in, that's what we should be pushing-------------paper

Honk------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016


mother earth

(6,002 posts)
8. It can be about actually safeguarding the machines, atm's are working with audit trails....
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 09:57 AM
Aug 2015

why not the voting machines? Remember, all other ways are being used in addition, as a reg. dem. where paper ballots are used, I was inexplicably bumped from the voting list during Kerry's election due to a "glitch"---that infamous glitch without explanation, BOOM, add that to the rest of the mix & you fix an election. Where the dems have ever won, the landslide was too huge to mess with, or they get help from SCOTUS. It doesn't seem hopeful to me that anything is going to change before the next election, so it will be tampered with, as usual. Exit polls are a universal tool, but only here do we ignore it & wonder what it meant.

There's a reason we lost the majority in the midterms...the oligarchs didn't want change...not with all the money they've invested in their politicians & the revolving door.

This is why the clown car is filled to capacity, even with all of their as*hat & blowhard rhetoric...they know some votes CAN & are bought & paid for, even using the same old ploys & hate mantras.

TY, turbinetree, HONK-HONK for that political revolution.

back atcha!

Stevepol

(4,234 posts)
5. The best we can do is just demand: VERIFY THE VOTE!
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 05:38 AM
Aug 2015

It has to become a mantra with those who know, and people should educate themselves at least in some of the facts, i.e., that Kerry won the 04 election according to the exit polls (which were at least as well-conducted and accurate as any ever done), that Alvin Greene in SC's Dem primary did not win the primary, maybe the most ridiculous election result in history, when a guy who didn't even bother to campaign and nobody knew from Adam, beat a perfectly acceptable, well-known opponent by almost 2-1, even though in the early voting and the absentee voting where paper was used the result was the opposite, a 2-1 margin in favor of the well-known and apparently well-liked Dem (who would have offered a good alternative to one of the horde of tea party crazies that this kind of electronic vote cheating has peopled the landscape with). AND THEN TO TOP IT OFF, the Democratic party in SC voted (I believe unanimously) not to have a re-election when computer experts at their investigation agreed that it was almost certainly a computer error. It's as if the Democrats just don't want to go to the trouble of having a democracy. You wonder why we don't just turn the whole government to the Repub criminals and idiots and be done with it, since it's obvious that this is what's going to happen except just more slowly, even as every other factor, demographics, logic, science, facts, is yelling at you: Dems are actually winning these elections, idiots. Get rid of the machine counting or at the very least, VERIFY THE VOTE!!!

Even now, Bernie Sanders, who has an insight into what's happening politically that is as good as any politician everseems to have no knowledge of or concern about what's happening with the machines. How can he understand what's happening in every area of politics EXCEPT WHEN IT COMES TO THE ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES?? You tell me. I feel and I'm sure many others feel as if we are living in an asylum that is run by the least sane inmates.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
7. Helping America Vote!
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 09:52 AM
Aug 2015

If you should happen to vote for a non-establishment candidate then the machine will automatically help by correcting your vote to the pre-approved candidate. Everything is working as intended.

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