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Related: About this forumMorning Joe: 'Clinton Has Lost the Lead in Iowa' - Sanders Now Ahead
Panel discusses the reasons for the major turnabout in Iowa and continued strong showing in New Hampshire for Bernie Sanders over Hillary Clinton. Chuck Todd expresses his belief that the reason lies in how Democrats feel about the two candidates on a visceral level.
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Chuck Todd: This Is A Really Bad Day For Hillary Clinton To Have Bad Poll Numbers
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no_hypocrisy
(46,080 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)I don't see Biden getting in unless he sees a slam dunk, and maybe not even then. So far, that does not seem to be in the cards. His options right now seem to be to go out as two-term Vice President, or as a three time presidential primary losers. Which would you choose?
bonniebgood
(940 posts)and crime bill problem. He doesn't have the black vote and neither does Clinton. Joe cannot get to the left of Clinton because they are both pro corporate. And so is Cuomo pro corporate.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)If he is not running, I think Bernie might get most of those.
Darb
(2,807 posts)Wait and see.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Adding Biden fucks these polls up, making them worthless.
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)The R's and and the MSM have been as relentlessly hard on her over the years as they have been on President Obama. This latest email thing just being one example of how unfairly they operate with their mean-spirited spin and fake scandals.
Btw, if Bernie manages to win the primary, these same jerks will do it to him. Heck, the spin-meisters are probably combing through Bernie's past at this very moment, looking for crap to throw at him. In fact, we are seeing some of it already, with the "self avowed socialist" stuff (as if that is a bad thing). ...And this is just one example. There are others.
But getting back to my point, this Sanders' supporter truly does feel for Hillary. As was pointed out in the video, I think that most of us Bernie supporters do genuinely like her as an individual (and President Obama). Just not many of their policies.
I'm only speaking for myself here, but I feel the need to say this, because many people on DU seem to think that we support Bernie because we "hate" Hillary, or President Obama. I don't think that is anywhere near the truth for a huge percentage of us. Probably all of us, actually... It really is about the issues, and our... well, my- (I don't want to speak for other Bernie supporters) wish to see a revolutionary change of the status quo.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)alone. I could never vote for Hillary, but I call them as I see them. The Republicans are just being assholes, it's in their DNA. If it wasn't the email thing or BENGHAZI! they would make up some other shit.