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The officer explained the reason for the stop:
Apparently the officer and the chief are both on a paid leave while this is investigated...
Tucker, who is black, didnt cooperate and passively kept his left hand in his hooded sweatshirt pocket. Fine tried to pull the hand out and put it on his squad car hood.
After Tucker, 27, continued to passively resist Fine and ask what he was doing wrong, Fine zaps Tucker once with his stun gun.
Fine then tells Tucker that he is being charged with resisting arrest. When Tucker asks why what arrest he was resisting, Fine told him he wasnt going to talk to him anymore.
marym625
(17,997 posts)How do we stop this? It has to end. It just has to
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)This one is particularly bad because the cop didn't really even try to make up an excuse for the stop other than he was walking with a hoodie on.
We're supposed to have a Constitution and Bill of Rights to protect people from randomly being stopped and searched.
marym625
(17,997 posts)The Bill of Rights died with the Patriot Act.
I'm not going to stop trying but it's starting to feel like a losing battle.
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)Being black in a black hoodie...Tasered for asking why he was being stopped & then arrested for resisting the fact he was being arrested for being black in a black hoodie...TEXAS JUSTICE. Pretty much American Justice.
marym625
(17,997 posts)I really don't understand why everyone isn't going medieval cop's and prosecutor's asses.
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)And seeing stuff like this makes me really mad...However, I cannot imagine what it must be like to be an African American in America especially in the deep South! As a white male in the South people are not guarded in their speech around me unless they know me & to say racism is dead in the South is a COMPLETE FUCKING JOKE!
I worked for a some really good criminal defense lawyers while going through college & in a county south of Atlanta & it really is SAD to see what goes on down here. People who I went to high school with are are now cops & some are extremely racist, failures at sports & use to be the types who looked for & started fights in school all the time...To say the job does not attract certain type of MEAT HEADS is a LIE! Of course, there are "good" cops as well but they won't turn on the MEAT HEADS because they know that will be the end of their careers. The so-called "good" ones would on occasion secretly give us internal memos showing law enforcement agencies do enforce arrest quotas (among other illegal/unconstitutional practices) using different methods. And cops don't go to white neighborhoods to make their quotas!!
Could you imagine if white people were subjected to constant police harassment like African Americans are? Talk about RIOTS!! There would be all out ARMED REBELLION!!! African Americans are far more peaceful than white people & only resort to rioting once they have been steamrolled for decades & then they are still blamed for being unreasonable! NUTS!!!!
marym625
(17,997 posts)Everyone should be crazy made about this.
My uncle was a cop in a small southern town. In 1995, when he joined that force, he was asked by other cops to join the local kkk the week he joined. So what you're saying doesn't surprise me in the least
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)Not going to ask what he did but I know that kind of stuff goes on & his answer probably played a major role in his quality of life at work or even his job as a whole. Cops can be very scary even toward one another if they feel crossed.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Still was well respected there
Lots of times it does not end up that way...You have to be part of the gang/brotherhood or you don't fit in & that severely impacts your career. Not much different than telling a superior when your fellow officer abuses a suspect...Just something most cops & agencies do not tolerate.
DAngelo136
(264 posts)How this has to end? I'm sure you know how. It seems to me that the police collectively are angling for a race conflagration and trying their best to start one. This isn't surprising given the number of klansmen and white supremacists that are on police forces now. (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/21/1384553/-2006-FBI-Report-on-White-Infiltration-of-Law-Enforcement-You-Will-Be-Assimilated)
The present police culture has either cowed or eliminated so called "good cops" in the same matter that liberal minded Republicans were purged out of the Republican party, leaving only the screaming right, white wing Tea Party freaks.
The police are openly killing Black folks and getting away with it. There's only so much patience a people can display before a breaking point is reached. These white supremacists know this and are doing their level best to reach it. It is no coincidence that these actions are occurring along with the militarization of the police with heavy weapons and equipment to go along with it.
I normally don't resort to alarmist or conspiracy theories but, a racial conflagration would serve as an American Reichstag moment and would likely propel a character like Donald Trump and his proto-fascistic views into the Presidency. Not that I have a dim view of my fellow Americans who happen to be white, but I really don't trust you to come to my or other Black people's aid if and or when the American "brown shirts" start taking to the streets and the government starts taking Black folks en masse to the new version of the "Gulag Archipelago" as experienced by Solzhenitsyn.
Please assure me that my thoughts are merely a figment of my imagination or is my paranoia justified?
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... but I do not believe it is a figment of your imagination at all. I think you are absolutely right on all counts, and it enrages me.
My younger stepson married into a tribe of howling bigots whom I despise, and I am disgusted by the person he has become. He's also a cop, so I've gleaned a little inside info that corroborates your theory.
I'm an old, blue-eyed honky, but I'm still a deadly marksman, so when the proverbial substance hits the fan, as it is certain to do if a Republican is elected next year, I'll be standing beside People of Color, and God help the howling bigots, 'cause I sure as fuck won't.
enough
(13,255 posts)but a significant proportion of police appear to be acting as you describe. Their way of behaving seems to suggest that there's a purpose to it. It's so outrageous that it seems to be deliberate provocation.
Also, the fact that police appear to be almost entirely outside of any legal consequences for their actions or for covering up, justifying, and abetting brutality, means that we're not just talking about a few bad actors, but about institutional policy.
markpkessinger
(8,392 posts)I have two nephews who are police officers. While they don't, so far as I know at least, actively angle for a race conflagration, they, like every other cop I have encountered, make excuse after excuse for misconduct by their colleagues. So, as far as I am concerned, by virtue of participating in that "blue wall of silence" and by virtue of their near universal knee-jerk defense oi their colleagues accused of wrongdoing, it is indeed ALL cops.
enough
(13,255 posts)institutional policy rather than individual insane behavior.
Sorry to hear your family experience confirms this.
marym625
(17,997 posts)I believe it is part of the plan of the oligarchs to control the world, not just the US. I realize how far out and crazy that sounds but it seems to be true.
Break as many financially as possible.
Have religion, and therefore, fear, in government to control many
Arrest, beat or kill minorities and the mentally ill
Imprison women for controlling their bodies
Ruin public education
Make college so expensive it is not even a dream for most
Maybe if white people realized that they're next, they might give a shit.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Thank you for posting
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)They see a black guy as being no different than a stray dog.
As far as they're concerned they aren't even HUMAN.
It doesn't even OCCUR to the cops that black people are citizens with the same rights and freedoms as white people.
Joe Chi Minh
(15,229 posts)recognise human kinship.
zebonaut
(3,688 posts)damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... preferred to call his form of government "Corporatism." I think the definition of fascism is more accurately described as the collusion of Big Business an Big Government for the benefit of an elite few, and at the expense of The Great Unwashed. That's US.
Oh, and the Grammar Bully want to point out that out-WEIGHS is the correct spelling.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,311 posts)Maybe black folks should have to wear safety orange hunting clothes.
Wtf
libodem
(19,288 posts)Steve Harvey did a segment last week about race relations. He sadly talked about the rules for a police encounter he had, had to have with his boys.. Like anyone. it included: have your registration out on the dash so you are not going into your glove compartment. Keep your hands up on the wheel where they can be seen. Yes, sir, no,sir, etc.
But he also said he went into all his son's closets and took away every hoody. It made me feel resentful for the kids. But after this film I no longer feel it was overkill reactionary. Not even a little.
imthevicar
(811 posts)Cycle of insurgency: Cops are being targeted, whats next?
Justin King
Washington, DC (TFC) The airwaves are full of pundits screaming about violence against police officers. These are the same pundits that disregarded the warnings of experts in the field of insurgency when the Ferguson riots broke out and chose to dismiss the rioters as thugs. They continued to cheer lead for more police militarization even after the first officers were shot in targeted killings. They are now continuing their efforts to support police militarization. Those of us that warned of this last year, have watched in horror as all of our predictions came true. We are now in the fourth stage of the cycle of insurgency. The fifth stage is open insurrection. It is time for officers to dismiss the pundits on Fox News that have never held a firearm outside of a range and listen to people that know what they are talking about. None of us that have made these warnings did so because these are things we want to
http://thefifthcolumnnews.com/2015/09/cycle-of-insurgency-cops-are-being-targeted-whats-next/
zebonaut
(3,688 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)You won't find it in the law book anymore, but it's still enforced. Used to be that way all over the place in the Southwest.