ABC Dowd: Clinton in Serious Trouble - 'Total Lack of Accountability'

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Matthew Dowd on ABC's "This Week" indicates that bringing Bill Clinton into the picture is a sure sign that the Hillary Clinton campaign is in trouble

"...Bill Clinton coming out is a sign... a SURE sign... that Hillary Clinton's in trouble. You wouldn't roll out Bill Clinton in the middle of this without her being in trouble."

He goes on to reflect, "i think we started this race with her having huge problems with Republicans, then we went to 'she has huge problems with Independents'. Now, she's developing problems with the Democratic base of the party, which is why Bernie Sanders is rising... which is why so many people are trying to get Joe Biden in the race."

"Fundamentally, that interview with Bill Clinton shows why the American public is upset with Hillary Clinton, which is, there seems to be this total lack of accountability. It's like 'My problems have nothing to do with me, they have to do with the Republicans, they have to do with the Media, they have to do with somebody else."



* note added: video loops halfway through

[Botany]

1. these emails "problems" are swiftboating or Whitewater part 2

Hillary broke no laws, violated no rules, and did not have her server "wiped clean."

These attacks are swiftboating end of story.


the media spreads the non story about Hillary and her email "problems" and then follows it up w/
a poll or a talking head saying that people can't "trust the Clintons"

[shenmue]

2. Yep

Only Fox and the Sanders supporters here think it means anything.

That should tell you something.

[FarPoint]

5. Hahahaha... Yeap!

That sums it up alright....

[daleanime]

9. And yet 'those problems' have no bearing....

on why I, and 94% of those like me, are Sanders supporters. And feel free to call us Sandernistas, we're all friends here.

And yes, I know you disagree, have a great day anyways.

[Botany]

10. Most Sanders supporters don't buy the crap and lies either

the same people who were behind the swiftboating of John Kerry are now
behind the "Hillary and her email problems" story.

John Kerry had 3 purple hearts, a bronze star, and silver star so "they" attacked him
over his service in Vietnam ..... HRC traveled over 1 million miles in doing a good
job as Sec. of State so "they" are attacking her over doing her job and in that job she
sent emails ...... this is classic Rove end of story .... attack the other sides strong
point.

I am willing to bet that much of it starts with and is driven by creative response concepts
of Arlington, VA.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Creative_Response_Concepts

BTW Karl Rove lost 22 million emails that had to do w/the Iraq war, the 2004 election,
US Attorneys, and Don Siegleman.

[shenmue]

11. You must not read GD:P very much.

[zentrum]

7. It doesn't matter if it's

….Swiftboating. Fox and the MSM will drip drip drip this thing and effect our ability to have a Dem in the WH.

We are not a fact-based country any more. What moves people to the polls is fear, "scandal", headlines.

Her vulnerability, deserved or not, imperils our chances and she and Bill have baggage. I don't see how we can afford to take the chance.

[CanadaexPat]

13. Other candidates handle these attacks much better.

It goes to competence as a campaigner and electability, both of which are in question with Hillary.

[LiberalArkie]

19. HRC and Bill always had the same problem even in Arkansas. They have such sharp minds

and think in such legal terms, that they rationalize out everything. Kind of like the kids being told "Do not get any cookies out of the cookie jar". They think and think and decide "What if the cookie jar fell on the floor? That would be ok wouldn't it?". Never broke any rules, but as attorneys they tried to get as close to that line as they could. Just like all good attorneys do. And they are both highly educated attorneys.

Yes I am opposed to HRC, only because she is an attorney. Someone who is an attorney and running for office has a lot to overcome for my vote. HRC even has more to overcome being a corporate attorney. If she had been an attorney taking cases for the poor and against big business, I don't think anything would have turned me off from voting for her. But such is not the case. I want a liberal firebrand hell-on-wheels woman who walks the walk and talks the talk become president before I die. I want a Molly Ivans or Ann Richards like lady to be our first woman president. I want a woman president who would walk right up to Ted Cruz and just punch him in the nose.

But that is just my point of view. Your mileage may vary.

[still_one]

3. Oh FFS, let's get the opinion of a right wing hack. Screw the MSM. Maybe they can interview Cheney

so we can get his opinion if Biden should run.

I really detest the corporate media, and what garbage they have become. My apologies to garbage, because garbage can at least be recycled, the corporate media is toxic waste

[cheapdate]

4. Who would have thought the email thing would have been a winner?

I'm sure that it surprised even the right-wing ideological machine that hatches this kind of bullshit. No doubt they had many backup plans to roll out -- but I'll bet even they are surprised this one stuck, as empty as it is.

[cui bono]

30. I don't think the email hype is what the problem is.

I think people are just more enthused by Bernie. Although Hillary probably could have handled the email situation better and nipped it in the bud sooner. We knew when we first heard about it that the GOP was going to glom onto that as they did with Benghazi. But I think the only ones who are really falling for it are Faux News watchers and the like.

I haven't paid much attention to it at all, there's plenty of other reasons I prefer Bernie and they all have to do with policy and integrity issues. I just feel he speaks and fights for the people in a way that I've never seen Hillary do.

[cheapdate]

33. That's a commendable attitude,

but it would seem that you and I don't browse all of the same OPs here at DU.

There's actually quite an impressive body of work by DUers on the "email thing."

[cui bono]

34. Well there's an impressive body of work by DUers on the "racist thing" too.

Doesn't mean it's really a problem.

[cheapdate]

35. True. That one is frankly bizarre.

Not sure it exists in the real world or not. Does it?

The email thing however exists in both the real world and, in certain places, in DU.

[applegrove]

6. I'm sure she has her whole campaign mapped out and

doesn't want to jump the gun on her plan, to try and shore up her numbers now, so Bill is the best thing to send out to get back ahold of the narrative. Imagine, a political candidate rolling with the punches!

[SoapBox]

8. As my female co-workers are saying...

It's a Trust thing.

[carolinayellowdog]

12. Martin O'Malley is neither a Sanders supporter nor a member of the rightwing media

Yet he says the questions about Clinton's email are legitimate:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251627613

I'm perplexed by this apparent discrepancy: at DU the O'Malley supporters seem to be in a tacit alliance with the Clinton supporters against the Sanders supporters, yet in the real world their candidate is criticizing Clinton a lot more than Sanders.

[Android3.14]

42. "O'Malley supporters seem to be in a tacit alliance with the Clinton supporters against the Sanders"

Gotta say, I haven't noticed that at all. O'Malley supporters, in general, prioritize O'Malley, Bernie, and then grudgingly Clinton.

This next week is going to be a rough one for her campaign.

[Geronimoe]

14. A Federal Judge sure thinks it a big deal

Emails are needed to comply for Federal archiving, meeting FOIA requests, and for litigation. These are not Hillaary's emails, rather the State Departments.

On top of this, how could Hillary be so stupid to do this?

[SunSeeker]

22. Emmet Sullivan, the federal judge you speak of, did not issue any ruling against Hillary.

Whether or not Hillary did anything wrong was not even before Sullivan in the case he was ruling on. He just made some extemporaneous comments on a topic that he knows no more about than any of us, as Howard Dean noted. Judges are human beings, they like to comment on what they read in the news. That does not give their comments any special power.

Her personal emails are her emails, not the State Department's. She has never claimed her State Department emails are her property that should not be turned over. She has turned over all of her State Department business emails. What is taking so long now is that the State Department, CIA and FBI are trying to resolve disagreement over how many of those email they got from her should be turned over to the public in response to FOIA request, and whether they should be marked classified (none were prior) after the fact, to prevent them from being turned over in response to FOIA requests. That FOIA issue is what is in front of Sullivan.

So are the preceding Secretaries of State, like Colin Powell or Condi Rice, who also used private email accounts, "stupid" too? No one gave a shit when they did it. Why would she think people would be outraged when she did it? As she explained, she did it because it was convenient in light of her grueling travel schedule. The State Department had an antiquated system that did not work well on a smart phone and she would have had to have several smart phones. The GOP had not given the State Department the money it requested for security and upgrades. So she set it up through her own secure server, for easier communication while she was on the road, which was almost always. Her server has never been hacked, unlike the State Department's.

This is a bullshit nonstory pushed by the right wing, the MSM, and some Sanders supporters.

[vadermike]

15. she's toast

Hate to say it.. but it sover..now we will probably get someone stronger for the general, either Bernie or Biden probably..i expect her to drop out before super tuesday , once she is in single digits

[Darb]

45. Good gawd is that delusional.

Major league.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

16. I'm glad a consultant for the Bush/Cheney campaign is now a reliable source around here

WTF is wrong with this place????

[Botany]

18. Nice Catch!

From wiki

Matthew John Dowd (born May 29, 1961)[2] is an American political consultant who was the
chief strategist for the Bush-Cheney '04 presidential campaign.

[tomm2thumbs]

20. He seems to tell the truth, when I've seen him speak

Defending Obama, attacking Romney & Ryan

Guess it all depends on which side of his analysis one happens to be on at the time

[tomm2thumbs]

17. you can't fake authenticity, hence the Hillary Clinton dilemma

getting around that will be impossible, just depends on how many voters in America prefer authenticity

[SunSeeker]

23. Ironic you would talk of authenticy while portraying the propaganda of a right wing hack as truth.

And posting to your own thread for an extra kick to the thread, that is the cherry on top.

[tomm2thumbs]

24. sensitive much?

truth hurt much?

[SunSeeker]

38. I figured you'd come back with a personal insult nonresponse.

There is no truth in your post. I'm not giving this shameful thread any more kicks. Bye.

[tomm2thumbs]

39. We'll miss you!!!

[cui bono]

32. Some people actually pay attention to the content rather than play politics as a team sport.

I agreed with Ron Paul on staying out of wars. Didn't you?

[SunSeeker]

37. Fuck Ron Paul and the entire Republican party that is killing this country.

It is shameful to look to a craven Republican to give your smear credibility.

[cui bono]

40. What smear?

And seriously, you are not thinking clearly. So you think war is good then?

You really don't think people can agree on some things and not on others? You really think that just because someone is on the "other team" they can't have one single good idea or stance?

Sheesh. So much for critical thinking. The politics as a team sport is really old and harmful. We saw that when people defended Obama's spying on US citizens and on the TPP. Dreadful and the biggest danger to our democracy besides Citizens United.

[6chars]

26. the authentic hillary likes talking about policy

so this should be right up her alley.

[stuffmatters]

21. Hillary-DWS avoiding debates has only amplified the R's & weakened Hillary

24 million people watched, 22 million people watched...it's been a 5-6 hour factless, free saturation ad for the Fox News mindset.

Gossip, fear, paranoia, narcissism, hyperhawkism and hate against minorities, women, "Hillary", Muslims, regulations, taxes, the social safety net...you name anything good America (and Dems) stand for and the DNC already surrendered the Repubs a tsunami of unchallenged air time to spew their lies and bile.

Then that fact free crap became the foundation for all political reporting by the MSM in the last two months. This remark by Dowd, a Bush-Cheney Repub masquerading as an Independent, is just another example of feeding this lie steamroller that the rope a DOPE debateless DNC has allowed to develop.

Now questions in the first Dem debate will be based upon the vile "frame" of the world set by all Repub candidate lies and diversions.
The DNC, DWS and "protecting Hillary from Bernie and Martin" has already caused possibly irreparable harm to all Dem candidates in this race...from Presidential down to locals candidates. And Hillary, because she is the frontrunner and the richest R gossip vein to hit, has lost enormous national support from this DNC strategy of invisibility/debate avoidance/hours of free publicity to tens of millions of voters.

Nice work DWS et alios. The hiding out strategy has been a catastrophe to Hillary and our whole party.

[RBInMaine]

27. Enough of the GOOFY debate nonsense. If people can't figure it out after 6 debates they never will.

6 is the same number of debates they've had with similar numbers of candidates. Plus there are other forums. No one is closely paying attention right now to these silly ReFOOL debates and those who are are just their kool aid drinkers. This is giving the R's plenty of time to show how stupid they are. Trump, Carson, and Fiorina aren't going to be their nominees, so let them have at it and run their clown car.

[tomm2thumbs]

29. I dont' think it is GOOFY, for what it's worth

[tomm2thumbs]

36. that is so weird, I just had a deja vu that this thread got locked

must be the pizza I ate

[Spitfire of ATJ]

25. LOL! This makes it sound like Bernie is taking advantage of Hillary's problems.

[edgineered]

28. Accountability is not easily defined.

When asked why I lied to our Division Officer at morning muster, I replied that I had not lied to him. The Lieutenant's routine question was if everyone was here. "All present or accounted for, Sir" was a truthful answer, even though nobody knew where Tex was.

As explained to the men in my division, the written muster report would have accounted for his being UA (unauthorized absence). Had he not shown up prior to turning in the muster report, the UA count would have reflected his absence. As it turned out he showed up before submitting the report and the Lt was none the wiser.

[redstateblues]

31. Isn't he a Republican?

Why is he getting so much attention here?

[zebonaut]

41. These Freaks Live to make Hillary appear "Flawed" and to admit to that

But they really are out to get her

[Quixote1818]

43. I am for Bernie but this idiot is full of shit

The email issue is a non-issue being blown way out of proportion and there is no good way to deal with it but say it's BS. In the end either people will care about it or they won't and they probably wont care. Bernie is rising because Democrats are in line with him more than Hillary period.

[ljm2002]

44. What is it with these looping videos?

I heard him the first time.

Lately there have been several of these. I hate it.