Jeb! advisor Gen Michael Hayden praises Hillary: the 'right formula going forward'

[JohnnyK]

General Michael Hayden on Morning Joe 10.23.15

[Jack Rabbit]

1. That doesn't encourage me to look forward to a Hillary Clinton administration

Imdeed, Geneeral Hayden is one of the architects of the undermining of the Fourth Amendment. I have no use for him at all and an endorsement from him is a yellow flag.

[grasswire]

2. very damning, IMHO

The kiss of death.

[JDPriestly]

3. I'm definitely not voting for Hillary.

Silence from the Hillary supporters on this thread. Interesting.

[KoKo]

9. Jeb supporter Michael Hayden praises Hillary--very concerning

"dimes difference?"

[YOHABLO]

4. "Could Hillary Clinton Be A Strong Commander In Chief?" Well yeah, ...

she'll do exactly what 'they' tell her to do.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

11. If JFK had listened to the generals we would have had WWIII.

[Enthusiast]

19. Huge +1!

[Enthusiast]

5. We have had quite enough of these fucking foreign entanglements.

Additionally, no one in the military should be determining our foreign policy. That is rock solid.

Why should we be expected to embrace perpetual war when they want to cut my social security and medicare?

None of these fucking conflicts they created have made us more secure, on the contrary.

[KoKo]

8. .....!

[Unknown Beatle]

16. Social Security and Medicare

[Enthusiast]

18. Precisely.

[Enthusiast]

6. Kicked and recommended to get this up front. People need to be made aware of this.

[raindaddy]

7. "Hillary would be more inclined to get more invloved in a lot of trouble spots around the world..

than Obama!"

- Gen. Michael Hayden


Nothing else needs to be said......

[MisterP]

12. so two dozen instead of one dozen covert "lightweight" wars?

[raindaddy]

14. "Lightweight" if you're not one the boots on the ground troops....

Or working in a hospital that gets bombed.. Wondering how many kids we could lift out of poverty with the money we spend on "lightweight" wars?

[MisterP]

15. that's the term for them; in fact that's why they always blow up so fast,

because they're so confident that commando raids will win the war

it's like how the "counterinsurgency lobby" from Vietnam took over under Reagan and just ended up in an unwinnable Central American war that just produced 250,000 dead and a lot of crack in our cities

[raindaddy]

17. Thank you....

That's a good example...Reagan's basement war. I've read excerpts of Lawrence Walsh's book.. He was the prosecutor in Iran/Contra. He said the only thing that saved Reagan from prosecution was the fact he was so senile....

Now they don't even bother to investigate..

[MisterP]

20. it was actually a response to "Vietnam Syndrome" before Poppy decided to attack it with a short,

swift war in 1991 (where we'd rescued a poor attacked Friendly from "the fourth largest army in the world" and the sinister anti-American dictator at its head)

Iran-Contra wasn't monolithic at all: we had Birchers like North, Singlaub, and Secord (wanted America to follow Argentina's lead and stop with this "competitive electoral democracy" nonsense), "liberal interventionists" like Kirkpatrick (pro-Britain, pro-Pinochet, thought the Dems had betrayed liberalism by letting the new totalitarians take over Africa and now Nicaragua), and the "COIN lobby" of experts in guerrilla tactics, terrorism, and psyops: what hadn't been allowed to succeed in South Vietnam (or had turned into the Phoenix Program butchery) would be used to make the Salvadoran Army out-guerrilla the guerrillas

didn't work

there's actually a danger in the appeal of all these lightweight in-and-out "interventions": bloodless except for end of an utterly-wicked target, more legitimate than the complaining dictatorship, and risky to neither the commandos nor the polls; of course OBL's death (evidently in Pakistani Army custody) just kicked off a new situation where AQ was out of ISI's protection now and vulnerable to use by Doha and Riyadh to overthrow some dictators with our blessing, and then takeover by some new Mesopotamian leaders ...

[raindaddy]

21. Interesting stuff Mister P :)

Thanks again for the background info....

[Dustlawyer]

10. Scary endorsement from a truly evil man!

[frylock]

13. kick

[cprise]

22. K&R