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valerief

(53,235 posts)
3. Very upbeat. As I watched it, I wondered if the people who responded positively (most of them)
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:48 PM
Dec 2015

are the most emotionally stable.

cab67

(2,992 posts)
4. I might have responded aggressively.
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:10 PM
Dec 2015

I was bullied severely for most of my youth. It would have taken hard-core effort to convince me that anyone other than my mother saying "you're beautiful" wasn't trying to set me up on a joke.

What this person is doing is not only honorable, but courageous.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
5. I'm reminded of Aldonza' line in her big song in Man of La Mancha
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:19 PM
Dec 2015

"Blows and abuse I can take and give back again,
Tenderness I cannot bear."

It is strange how much kindness can hurt someone who is not accustomed to receiving it.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
9. Some looked like they doubted her, but they smiled anyway. That's a positive response.
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:36 PM
Dec 2015

Only a few were indifferent and I only saw one who was negative. I guess you're saying you would have responded like her.

cab67

(2,992 posts)
15. I suppose "suspicously" might be closer to how I'd respond.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:55 PM
Dec 2015

There was a day when one of the bullies decided to come over and hang out with me. I later learned he did this because he lost a bet. So I was more or less conditioned into thinking any effort to compliment me would have been part of a trick.

My first date with a girl was almost derailed because of this. Someone said she liked me, and I said that it must be some sort of joke or ruse or something.

I was socially awkward, and was ostracized for it. This limited my ability to learn social skills, increasing the ostracism. It's a nasty feedback loop. I'm only glad there was no such thing as social media when I was in school.

Bullying can affect you long into adulthood. I've learned to take criticism well, which is important - I submit manuscripts and grant proposals for peer review all the time - but to this good day, I get really defensive if more than one person criticizes me to my face. I'm also quick to assume there's something wrong with me if I see some of my friends interacting without me.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
16. I hope you can conquer your problem, but I can understand what you mean.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:39 PM
Dec 2015

I was never one of the cool kids, but I was never bullied. Well, once I was, but it was pretty lame. When I was 11 or 12, some kids physically pushed me around because I was in an advanced class and they weren't. For some reason, I wasn't really scared, and I only got a scratch out of it. In high school, I found myself laughing along sometimes with "the cool kids" as they called some shy and unattractive kids unflattering names. I still feel bad about that many decades later.

I think the most important thing to remember is that it's okay if you misjudge someone's intentions, if that relationship doesn't matter in either the short run or long run. So if you respond positively and later learn you've been had, it's important to say, "Fuck it." Most of the people I've given a lot of time to just don't (and didn't) really matter. Fuck it if I didn't look cool. Fuck it if they didn't like me. The more you learn your own strengths and limitations the easier it is to say, "Fuck it."

Of course, that's easy for me to say. I'm old now, and you don't have to be cool when you're old. That's probably its only luxury.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
6. I taught school for thirty years and one of the things I understood right away
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:49 PM
Dec 2015

is the great number of kids who didn't hear words of love and beauty. I gave them to every kid I ever had, words of encouragement as well as love. Darling, sweetie, love, honey, baby mine ... I never had a kid that didn't feel it in the hearts. TELL your kids they are beautiful, give them words of BEAUTY. TELL THEM THIS STUFF! THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW OR BELIEVE IT. That aggressive girl has never heard many good words. TELL THEM.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
8. And they are beautiful.
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:12 PM
Dec 2015

We are so conditioned to find only a a narrow range of the human look as beautiful. We are taught not to trust our own eyes and discard what we may find beautiful and attractive and instead look to corporate-controlled drones to tell us what is beautiful.

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