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hollysmom
(5,946 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)that he could beat Hillary in a foot race.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)Thanks for the video.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)That's all. I think most believe he is healthy. My grandfather was healthy as a horse until the heart said enough at 79.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)People kick the bucket in their 40's and 50's every day.
People also live at such a high quality of life well into their 90's that doctors are raising alarms about STDs in retirement communities.
Assuming someone will croak just because of their birthdate is yesterday's lunch. Thanks to better food and medicine and Medicare.
Single payer would make that a better reality for everyone.
markpkessinger
(8,392 posts). . . anything can happen to anyone at any time.
1monster
(11,012 posts)I don't think we need to worry.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)For 74 years, the SSA's Actuarial tables list that number as 11.55 years. Now unless people want to keep Bernie around as the next FDR I don't see how life expectancy should be a concern...
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)the best and most recent I seemed to find was the Social Security website which tells me that a man Bernie's age should live another 12.4 years. And that would be based on all men his age, a lot of whom are not nearly as healthy and active as he is. His mental acuity is amazing.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)I would be happy. He would have fulfilled his promise to lead a movement and I'm sure inspired millions and gotten us out of the negative, false thinking we've been in for too long.
Let him choose a good Vice-President, and let's go!!!
MillennialDem
(2,367 posts)into account child mortality.
When you look at the additional lifespan of a 74 year old, it's 11.5 years for men and 13.5 years for women. For a non-smoking man it's probably 13.5 years or more.
Of course in Bernie's case it would be harder to look at his family's lifespans (holocaust)
djean111
(14,255 posts)The funny thing is, what I saw on the internet was that pretty much everybody believes Hillary's campaign orchestrated it through the PAC - because Hillary is known for dirty tricks. And Brock tried to back-door something else, last year.
They earned that reputation for dirty tracks, and now that we can see behind the curtain, it has come to bite them.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)I think some Christians have conflicted ideas about "love"
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)The original was "eat me".
demwing
(16,916 posts)we're going to hell now, thanks!
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)the nuns were adamant that we not chew?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Holy SHIT!
Volaris
(10,266 posts)Renew Deal
(81,847 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)greiner3
(5,214 posts)Just sayin
stone space
(6,498 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,007 posts)Action_Patrol
(845 posts)It's usually not done until after the primaries start or the candidate has substantial threats.
He's alone other than staff when I see him around the complex.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,007 posts)adds a level of complexity and restriction that Bernie just wouldn't want at this point.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)gordyfl
(598 posts)Just a note, Bernie said he will release his medical records as is the tradition.
Of course were going to release our medical records, Sanders said during an interview on CNNs State of the Union Sunday. Thank God, I am very healthy."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-medical-records_569bd3d9e4b0b4eb759eb330
DamnYankeeInHouston
(1,365 posts)draa
(975 posts)I'd give $50 bucks to each candidate to watch that.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)But I would bet my retirement account on the disheveled old guy.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)A race to the White House! Pick a starting spot - say a couple hundred yards away - and use a light tree like they do at a drag strip (no starting GUN, of course!)
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)Pose as an Wall Street exec and wave a check. I imagine she would run pretty damn fast.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,148 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Hillary has 17 more to go, statistically... They would both be fine for two terms in office.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)eom
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)"They would both be fine for two terms in office"
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)his age is immaterial to me. I am voting for his ideas, his sincerity, and his compassion. Last I checked those things didn't have age limitations.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Unless I was really excited about the VP.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)This man is devoting a large percentage of his final years here on earth to make it better for humankind, restoring democracy in this country. I am so proud of him, it almost makes me cry every time I think about it.
But this is what Bernie wants. He wants equality for all, to make this world we live in, better. That's it. Nothing more, Nothing less.
Think for a moment, where this country would have headed, if he never ran for president? Or, if he does not win?
I am convinced he is here for a reason. I am convinced he will win. It's our last chance to save our democracy.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I don't know about Hillary's weight. That makes a big difference with regard to things like pain and blood pressure and stress on the heart. It is not the only important factor, of course. But it is one indication of how healthy a person is. Just one. And a person can be overweight and healthy even in their 70s.
I am not what you would consider overweight. (Well, not by much anyway.) But I am not an ideal weight, and my doctor tells me I should lose if I want to be free of pain and put less stress on my heart.
As I said, I have no idea how Hillary compares to Bernie in terms of weight, but I saw Bernie live and I think he controls his weight fairly well.
Weight is not so important when you are younger I think. Not like it is when you get older. Weight can make you nearly immobile.
Eat right and exercise. Those are the two most important keys to good health for most people (not all).
MillennialDem
(2,367 posts)muscle and thus a 35 year old and a 70 year old of the same height and weight the 35 year old will likely have a lower body fat percent.
And younger people tend to store more of their fat subcutaneously (in their thighs, butts, and in front of their abdominal muscles). Older people tend to store more of their fat viscerally (behind their abdominal muscles, near their organs) which is more dangerous.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Fat on older people even looks a little different than it does on younger people. Good reason for me to try to lose some weight. Thanks again.
MillennialDem
(2,367 posts)subcutaneous fat has migrated to the visceral areas.
Don't listen to the whole apple vs pear shaped fat thing though. Subcutaneous fat on the top of your stomach is just as (relatively) harmless as fat on your thighs. It's the deep fat underneath that's bad news.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)My 93 year old step-grandad is kicking, grandma just died a year ago at 92. Ex grandmother-in-law died at 96, mother in law is now 80 and goes to the gym everyday, does plein air painting in hard-to-get-to areas and still travels all over the world. A quarter of my neighbors who are Jewish are over 80 and are very active.
Some good genes there...nothing to worry about.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)My in-laws, Jews whose parents came from Poland both lived to be 96. All of their siblings, except for one sister who got cancer and died in her early forties, lived well into their nineties.
I tell my sons, born in 1982 and 1987, they need to plan to be on the Capitol Mall on July 4, 2076, and tell every single person they meet that their parents were there 100 years earlier. True! And I've decided to be on the Mall July 4 2026, and hope to have my sons there with me.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)step-grandparents and ex-in laws also Polish Jews, but my own Polish Catholic grandmother, who drank like a fish and smoked like a cigarette factory, lived to be 93.
Bernie is also from Polish stock. Interesting.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)I can tell you that we went to Poland on our honeymoon in 1980. In this country, my husband (now my ex) was never mistaken for a Jew, ever. He learned early on that he needed to let other Jews know, if he wanted them to realize he was one of them. Except in Poland, the few remaining Jews there crawled out of the woodwork to talk to him. We'd be walking somewhere in Krakow, where we spent most of our time, and more than once someone would come up to him, start speaking to him in English, and then when he'd look confused, they'd say, "You're Jewish, right?" Me, they totally ignored. This shiksa, whose four grandparents came to the U.S. from Ireland, was completely invisible to them.
But as for generic Polishness: he also noticed that many behaviors and a lot of the food we encountered were completely familiar to him. He felt more or less as if he were with distant family the entire time there.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)No one made them like my Grandma, even my Irish nan loved them.
Your mention of shiksa just reminded me of a very unpleasant situation when my OTHER ex-grandmother in law (not the sweet Polish one) was on the phone one day when I was visiting with the ex and she started speaking on the phone with her daughter, talking shit about me in Yiddish right in front of me. She had no idea that, apart from her grandson, that I was largely Jewish by Injection so I said ikh farshtey to her and her face turned scarlet. I didnt own up to being part of a wonderful Jewish family since I was a child, and I just said you do know Im Irish from the BRONX, right? (that was the great melting pot up until the 70s, and she was also from the Bronx).
She was unnaturally nice to me the rest of her life.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)Oh. Never mind.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Like Bernie, Seldes was a truth teller.
Like Bernie, he angered people of wealth and power.
Like Bernie, Seldes was indefatigable and fearless.
Oh, and by the way, Seldes lived to 104.
Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)had "accidentally" dropped...
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)having Bernie hot on its heels.
Monk06
(7,675 posts)dead
It's all about pacing yourself