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GoLeft TV

(3,910 posts)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:04 PM Mar 2016

RIP MSNBC – The Loudest Liberal Voice Has Died



With the departure of Melissa Harris-Perry, MSNBC is one step closer to becoming the pro-corporate mouthpiece that they’ve dreamed of since the day Comcast took over. The few remaining hosts with a conscience could be on the chopping block soon, and the only way to fight the corporate power over the media in this country is to simply change the channel.

Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins discusses this.
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RIP MSNBC – The Loudest Liberal Voice Has Died (Original Post) GoLeft TV Mar 2016 OP
WTF were they thinking? fleur-de-lisa Mar 2016 #1
I agree with your comment 100%. The old nail on the head !!! erlewyne Mar 2016 #16
wow Matthews is one of the most insightful folks on TV, & Maddow is brilliant. uhnope Mar 2016 #41
I stopped watching when KO was KO'd. ghostsinthemachine Mar 2016 #2
I cut way back after KO was taken off... then stopped all together after the removed Big Eddie. Bubzer Mar 2016 #18
Same here MissDeeds Mar 2016 #21
Yeah, me too. Sad to see this lady go. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #32
Same here winterwar Mar 2016 #39
I no longer have a TV. Well, not one that works. I can play video tapes in it though. jhart3333 Mar 2016 #31
They've been trying to reign it in for quite a while now. Bubzer Mar 2016 #34
Thanks for the reminder, I have to send them some money once we get Bernie elected. jhart3333 Mar 2016 #38
Me too. When Ed left, they lost me, for the most part. Ilsa Mar 2016 #51
I have been wondering how long RM will hold out... 2naSalit Mar 2016 #3
Does Rachel mostly talk about Trump and the rest of the Republic0n party? Stellar Mar 2016 #9
When I have 2naSalit Mar 2016 #13
You can tell that her heart isn't in it because her show is getting more boring by the minute. Stellar Mar 2016 #19
Rachel totally pulled the football from me last night kracer20 Mar 2016 #30
Think that was rep John Lewis, right? ./nt demwing Mar 2016 #48
Yes, you are correct. kracer20 Mar 2016 #55
I used to be such a Rachel fan . . . markpkessinger Mar 2016 #56
She will be missed! nt Stellar Mar 2016 #4
I have been gradually leaving for six months. oldandhappy Mar 2016 #5
We all knew it was coming....... nt 7wo7rees Mar 2016 #6
It's part of the corporate media. Why would they want liberal voices when it's important? jalan48 Mar 2016 #7
It died a Long time ago fredamae Mar 2016 #8
+10000 heaven05 Mar 2016 #24
From a business sense, I don't understand how they'll make money CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #10
"All Trump... StandingInLeftField Mar 2016 #14
Simply put: Boeing snowy owl Mar 2016 #20
They ALWAYS fire their best Liberal Hosts. zebonaut Mar 2016 #11
Oligarchy is preparing for a second best case scenario. Democratic party in current makeup randys1 Mar 2016 #12
I Have Wondered About Those Remaining colsohlibgal Mar 2016 #15
Burgeoning nightmare??? snowy owl Mar 2016 #22
It's offensive enough when they have chapdrum Mar 2016 #17
This was predictable the moment Comcast bought them. lark Mar 2016 #23
exactly heaven05 Mar 2016 #25
Some things you can see coming from miles away, lark Mar 2016 #27
Do not understrand loyalty to Maddow snowy owl Mar 2016 #47
More proof that television is dead. It's certainly dead to news. valerief Mar 2016 #26
QUESTION: Will Maddow & Tweety stay on when it becomes the Tea Party Channel (MSTPC)? Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Mar 2016 #29
I used to watch MHP every weekend Joey Liberal Mar 2016 #33
This is the agenda------------------from 1971 forward-----------------this is the agenda turbinetree Mar 2016 #35
We need a true Progressive station! ISeeA BrightFuture Mar 2016 #36
Not sure but... droidamus2 Mar 2016 #37
I have to laugh watoos Mar 2016 #40
To be honest, we're just kidding ourselves if we think Phlem Mar 2016 #42
Got rid of cable months ago. Haven't missed it one bit bvf Mar 2016 #43
Did you get rid of internet too? snowy owl Mar 2016 #49
Cable-based, yeah. Phone is what I have, bvf Mar 2016 #52
The MSM Ccarmona Mar 2016 #44
Bryan Williams = what a joke! snowy owl Mar 2016 #50
The Fourth Estate is dead, may it RIP truthseeker1 Mar 2016 #45
I deleted MSNBC from my iPhone... IthinkThereforeIAM Mar 2016 #46
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #53
What do we replace it with?? zebonaut Mar 2016 #54

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
1. WTF were they thinking?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:06 PM
Mar 2016

Tweety is a blathering idiot, Rachel is a complete sell out and they treated MHP so poorly it's a wonder she didn't leave earlier.

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
16. I agree with your comment 100%. The old nail on the head !!!
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:37 PM
Mar 2016

And I kind of like "change the channel" from the original post.

I'm still trying to follow Cenk. And I watch for big Ed. I am now
a fan off Melissa (I didn't give her enough time before, but I did
watch her). Yes, Rachel went the wrong direction. And, fleur-de-lisa,
that is the best description of Tweety, a blathering idiot.

A news media needs to hire these newscasters and give us the
intelligence we desire.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
41. wow Matthews is one of the most insightful folks on TV, & Maddow is brilliant.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:39 PM
Mar 2016

even if they are sometimes too moderate for me, I at least acknowledge that.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
2. I stopped watching when KO was KO'd.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:07 PM
Mar 2016

But my reich wing pals still think it is the mouthpiece of the left. So funny.

winterwar

(210 posts)
39. Same here
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:36 PM
Mar 2016

After they did Keith like that, I lost a part of my daily routine. Ed helped me deal with not having countdown every night. But then MSNBC goes and hers rid of Ed too Melissa Harris Perry was the best one left. She wasn't afraid to stir some shit. Good luck to her. I honestly feel that they held her career back. I think she'll be better off without them.

jhart3333

(332 posts)
31. I no longer have a TV. Well, not one that works. I can play video tapes in it though.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:53 PM
Mar 2016

Let's get Bernie elected before they figure out that the internet is a free for all and start reigning it in.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
34. They've been trying to reign it in for quite a while now.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:04 PM
Mar 2016

Fortunately we have groups like the EFF (electronic frontier foundation) https://www.eff.org/
working to help keep an eye on things.

jhart3333

(332 posts)
38. Thanks for the reminder, I have to send them some money once we get Bernie elected.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:17 PM
Mar 2016

First things first.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
51. Me too. When Ed left, they lost me, for the most part.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:59 PM
Mar 2016

I don't know what the fuss is about Rachel because I haven't been watching much at all. I wonder how she sold out?

2naSalit

(86,332 posts)
3. I have been wondering how long RM will hold out...
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:09 PM
Mar 2016

I think they renewed her contract about a month before they traded in their scruples to the point they can't even cover up their pile of poo anymore.

I didn't see RMS last night but I think Rachel is pissed, she seems so on her show lately and I know that she and MHP are friends as are Rachel and Chris Hayes. When they "walk" it will be just like another Fuxnooz 24/7.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
9. Does Rachel mostly talk about Trump and the rest of the Republic0n party?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:13 PM
Mar 2016

They usually appear to talk about Republic0ns for the first 45 minutes of the show and then when they can get to it....Democrats.

2naSalit

(86,332 posts)
13. When I have
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:19 PM
Mar 2016

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gone to their site to watch the past few months the scripting has been obvious and her makeup isn't hiding the stress anymore. I think that she's getting ready to leap anyway but may be waiting to be pushed out of the soaring plane... maybe some lawsuits are in the works over contract issues.

I can't imagine Rachel actually selling out, I think she's preparing a place to land for when she finally leaps. She helped build the short-lived brand the network had for a spell, she's got a lot of skin in that game and may be staying to keep from getting burned or maybe as a thorn in the side.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
19. You can tell that her heart isn't in it because her show is getting more boring by the minute.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:00 PM
Mar 2016

Her bosses will be scrutinizing everything.


kracer20

(199 posts)
30. Rachel totally pulled the football from me last night
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:52 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:09 PM - Edit history (1)

They had John Lewis on last night early in the show, and she was asking about his comments regarding not seeing Bernie back in the 60's. I was literally sitting up getting ready for her to ask how he could have met the Clintons back then when he wrote in his book that he didn't meet them until much later. Then she threw some softball stupid question and I had to scream at the TV.

All hopes for any MSM reporting died last night.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
56. I used to be such a Rachel fan . . .
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:06 PM
Mar 2016

I haven't had cable TV for years, but I would watch her show online. Then, MSNBC changed their website so that in order to watch any of their shows in full, you had to either have a cable account, or your ISP had to be a company that provided cable service. At the time, my ISP was Clear. Clear was eventually bought out by Sprint, and last fall, they ceased offering Clear's satellite Internet service. So I wound up getting an internet-only account through Time-Warner. I was then able, once again, to watch RM (which I had previously watched religiously). And to my immense disappointment, it was no longer the show I had once known and loved. A real shame.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
8. It died a Long time ago
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:12 PM
Mar 2016

it just took awhile for the reality to set in, imo.

A fatal diagnosis:
1980's Reagan began with the Fairness Doctrine - and

1990's Clinton finished it off with signing the Telecommunications Act into law.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
10. From a business sense, I don't understand how they'll make money
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:14 PM
Mar 2016

Who is their target audience now? Who will watch this slop?

Republicans view MSNBC as a liberal outlet. They won't touch it. They've got Fox News.

Progressives are done. That was their base audience. The owners may have wanted to stop touting and leveraging progressive voices, but they've alienated their base of ad revenues.

Nearly all of us are gone.

Bottom line--MSNBC exists to make money. How are they going to do that?

randys1

(16,286 posts)
12. Oligarchy is preparing for a second best case scenario. Democratic party in current makeup
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:15 PM
Mar 2016

defers to the oligarchs, sadly.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
15. I Have Wondered About Those Remaining
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:36 PM
Mar 2016

Ed got axed because he railed against the dreadful TPP...Griffin told them all not to go there.

That made me ponder what was up with Rachel, Chris, and Lawrence..my opinion of them took a hit because they would not go near the TPP, they seemingly toed the corporate line.

It is sad but with the Internet you can find real progressive talk easily and more and more are doing that, especially the younger folks. I dumped MSNBC some time ago, I watch Cenk, Ed, Thom Hartmann, Ring Of Fire, etc right on my TVs through my WiFi enabled Blu Ray players.

That is a burgeoning nightmare for the Ruling Class.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
22. Burgeoning nightmare???
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:36 PM
Mar 2016

I think the ruling class is doing quite well. And Rachel doesn't seem to mind. She's been okay not talking about net neutrality or giving Bernie is due for quite a long time now. I think she likes her paycheck although it seems to me their numbers are going down...I wonder what effect that will have.

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
17. It's offensive enough when they have
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:37 PM
Mar 2016

Steve Schmidt on as a talking head, but they topped that last night, with the smiling Tom DeLay being introduced by Matthews (who later went on to describe Hillary by saying "she does good works.&quot

Yes, it was inevitable.

The Masters of War survive it all.

lark

(23,065 posts)
23. This was predictable the moment Comcast bought them.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:41 PM
Mar 2016

Lo, it's coming to pass, gee what a surprise (NOT). I listen a few minutes to Morning Schmoe to catch the temperature for the other side. I rarely last more than 5 minutes unless Eugene Robinson is on. Otherwise, I only listen at night to Rachel and then maybe 1-2 times per month. I used to watch them almost non-stop until they betrayed us. There is no liberal press in America.

lark

(23,065 posts)
27. Some things you can see coming from miles away,
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:47 PM
Mar 2016

and this is one. Just like it's really clear what a clusterfuck will happen if we are so unfortunate to have Trump attain the presidency. Don't know exactly what that ego-maniacal buffoon would do, but it certainly would be to the detriment of everyone who isn't him or part of his billionaire class.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
47. Do not understrand loyalty to Maddow
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 06:28 PM
Mar 2016

She has been a mouthpiece and nothing more ever since Keith left.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
26. More proof that television is dead. It's certainly dead to news.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:46 PM
Mar 2016

And unless you like endless sports, Jesus, shopping, and kiddieshit on tv, cable is certainly dead--or, at least, on life support. There are some entertaining shows that sneak in news, but the internet is our only hope for real information. That is, until we become the New China/New NK and they cut off most of the internet to us, too.

Response to GoLeft TV (Original post)

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
35. This is the agenda------------------from 1971 forward-----------------this is the agenda
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:09 PM
Mar 2016

and how every, or, almost every director, CEO, GOP, Lackey's, Media, merger's, have operated under prior to this right wing justice being put on the U.S. Supreme Court he wrote this, and it has been the republican playbook on "everything" ..................a conservative agenda, even the agenda of removing "Liberal" voices off the airwaves..................


http://reclaimdemocracy.org/powell_memo_lewis/


Honk------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016


It is about getting a Progressive President, U.S. Supreme Court, Congress, and State and Local Legislatures




36. We need a true Progressive station!
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:15 PM
Mar 2016

I like The Young Turks & Thom Hartmann (on his many shows) & Benjamin Dixon on Youtube !!! But maybe someone who knows how to CrowdSource or do other group funding maybe can set it up so we could all get together and put together a truly Progressive Channel that we all could chip in $1 a month or so we could watch them on cable tv? The TV generation out there needs access to a real Progressive message, instead of the extremely edited and negative view they see on Corporate TV!

droidamus2

(1,699 posts)
37. Not sure but...
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:17 PM
Mar 2016

It may be my imagination but it seems to in every Presidential election cycle MSNBC goes through this kind of purge. That let the progressive/liberals hand out until about a year before the election then they can the most liberal. In so doing they are trying to cow the remaining progressives to 'tone down' their rhetoric and fall more in line with the corporate message.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
40. I have to laugh
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:38 PM
Mar 2016

where have all of you been? I have been saying this for years.

Have you forgotten; Phil Donahue, Keith Olbermann, Cenk Uygur, Martin Brashear, Toure', Ed Schultz?

msnbc has only been liberal toward the social issues.

Ever hear of good cop bad cop? msnbc may put a liberal slant to a narrative, but the narrative is controlled by the owners, COMCAST and GE.

There is no such thing as a liberal M$M, and once they pass the TPP the internet will also fall into their hands.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
42. To be honest, we're just kidding ourselves if we think
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:40 PM
Mar 2016

Any (which is mostly all) of corporate controlled media would support any type of liberalist social position.

Things need to change drastically for that to happen and we're not even close to drastic changes in regards to media.

We need to let go of this fantasy and focus on the things that work. Like creating a central place on the internet where liberal socialists can get together and organize.

Like creating lists, maps, and legends that point us to places that support our cause. Bernie is just one piece and you know what they say about putting all your eggs in one basket. We need more leaders like Bernie and we need to find them, promote them, and support them.

We need to be proactive and not solely rely on Bernie, we need to look past him at the long term movement.

This can't be a short run, we need to play like the other guys and set long term objectives while we deal with short term issues like getting Bernie elected.

Just my 2 cents.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
52. Cable-based, yeah. Phone is what I have,
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 09:21 PM
Mar 2016

but I make do. I've gotten really good at thumb-typing!

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
44. The MSM
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:56 PM
Mar 2016

Has always been run by right-wingers that will tolerate opposing voices only if it makes them money. MSNBC recently changed management and has been circling the drain. Adding Brian Williams to its election coverage was the last straw for me. I still watch RM as she still has some cred left, as evidenced by her work on the Flint water crisis.

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