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SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:29 PM Mar 2016

How the PC Regressive Left Can Manifest Bigotry and Prejudice

This is a 7 minute "Big Think" video by Maajid Nawaz I think everyone should watch!

I have so much respect for activist & true "Progressive" Maajid Nawaz...Just finished "Islam and the Future of Tolerance: A Dialogue" by Sam Harris & Maajid Nawaz. I highly recommend it especially to those who claim true Liberals like Sam Harris are racist Islamiphobes.


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How the PC Regressive Left Can Manifest Bigotry and Prejudice (Original Post) SkyDaddy7 Mar 2016 OP
bkmrkd to see later, very intrigued snagglepuss Mar 2016 #1
Maajid is a phony and a bit of a monster tbh Mufaddal Mar 2016 #2
Sorry, but I don't take anybody who uses the term "regressive left" seriously. Chakab Mar 2016 #3
Well if the term fits... zeemike Mar 2016 #6
Great video oberliner Mar 2016 #4
Sam Harris is a neocon, warmongering, kook. cpwm17 Mar 2016 #5
Your chronology is off. Promethean Mar 2016 #7
"Regressive Left" is consistently used by pseudo-liberal bigots. cpwm17 Mar 2016 #8
reminds of so-called lefties that support Putin's Russia. nt uhnope Mar 2016 #9
Usually quite a crossover betwixt those groups. n/t Behind the Aegis Mar 2016 #10
 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
3. Sorry, but I don't take anybody who uses the term "regressive left" seriously.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:14 PM
Mar 2016

And this argument that the people who call bigots on their shit are the reason that guys like Harris get lumped in with the far right on Islam-related issues is farcical. He's lumped in with them because his positions on those particular issues are the same.

Dude completely lost me after he claimed that he'd vote for Ben Carson over Chomsky.

http://www.salon.com/2015/12/09/siding_with_christian_fanatics_like_ben_carson_over_noam_chomsky_sam_harris_exposes_inherent_conservatism_of_new_atheism/


BTW I think that Ben Carson's foray into politics in recent years has completely laid waste to the notion that a person who is accomplished in a medical field related to neurology should necessarily have all of his opinion on currents events taken seriously as a matter of courtesy.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
6. Well if the term fits...
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 07:40 PM
Mar 2016

And if the left starts trying to do away with free speech then the term fits IMO.
So if you don't want to be called it don't do it.

"But when you go caring pictures of Chairman Mao
It ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow."

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
5. Sam Harris is a neocon, warmongering, kook.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:36 PM
Mar 2016

"PC Regressive Left" is a right-wing meme, used by those that hate learning about history and brown people.

Here Sam Harris blamed the Iraqis for the failure of the unprovoked war against them:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-harris/bombing-our-illusions_b_8615.html

The war in Iraq, while it may be exacerbating the conflict between Islam and the West, is a red herring. However mixed or misguided American intentions were in launching this war, civilized human beings are now attempting, at considerable cost to themselves, to improve life for the Iraqi people. The terrible truth about our predicament in Iraq is that even if we had invaded with no other purpose than to remove Saddam Hussein from power and make Iraq a paradise on earth, we could still expect tomorrow’s paper to reveal that another jihadi has blown himself up for the sake of killing scores of innocent men, women, and children. The outrage that Muslims feel over U.S. and British foreign policy is primarily the product of theological concerns. Devout Muslims consider it a sacrilege for infidels to depose a Muslim tyrant and occupy Muslim lands—no matter how well intentioned the infidels or malevolent the tyrant. Because of what they believe about God and the afterlife and the divine provenance of the Koran, devout Muslims tend to reflexively side with other Muslims, no matter how sociopathic their behavior. This is solidarity born of religious delusion, and it must end—or a genuine clash of civilizations will be unavoidable.

Promethean

(468 posts)
7. Your chronology is off.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 08:12 PM
Mar 2016

"Regressive Left" was made up by Liberals who saw attacks on free speech coming from the left and identified the group doing it. Censoring speech is literally a regression from the basic Liberal value of freedom of speech. Hence the origin of the term Regressive. The right wingers took up the term because using it makes themselves look smarter than they are. Before that right wingers just lumped the Regressives in with Progressives.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
8. "Regressive Left" is consistently used by pseudo-liberal bigots.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:30 PM
Mar 2016

They seem to think the greatest evils in the world are Muslims, feminists, and history books – war, not so much.

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