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EarlG

(21,935 posts)
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:05 AM Mar 2016

Pic Of The Moment: Why Won't The GOP Allow Guns At The Republican National Convention?



There's a petition to allow 'open carry' at the GOP convention.....and it's not from the Onion!!!!


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Pic Of The Moment: Why Won't The GOP Allow Guns At The Republican National Convention? (Original Post) EarlG Mar 2016 OP
Irony, sweet sweet irony. Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #1
What About Sharia Law? billhicks76 Mar 2016 #55
One problem SHRED Mar 2016 #2
But alls it takes is ONE good guy with a gun to stop one good guy withou --- something like that.. Hoppy Mar 2016 #31
SIGNED IT!!! Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #3
I love your sig line gifs of Bernie. geardaddy Mar 2016 #21
Metaphores for the ease with which Bernie will dispatch Dr.Umpf. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #28
Ha! Dr. Umpf. geardaddy Mar 2016 #35
Cmon wingers stand up for your rights. Bring all the weapons you need and have a party.... zebonaut Mar 2016 #4
And NO fair using Medicare or Obamacare for the resultant medical bills, either!!! n/t dixiegrrrrl Mar 2016 #90
Hypocrites. liberalnarb Mar 2016 #5
Clearly delegates need to arm themselves for those riots Trump promised. onehandle Mar 2016 #6
OMG! EXCELLENT! dchill Mar 2016 #7
Dodge City (in fact most cities in those days) didn't allow weapons to be carried groundloop Mar 2016 #14
I signed it. crim son Mar 2016 #8
I signed it yesterday. SamKnause Mar 2016 #9
I think they should require everyone to conceal their guns. Is that person reaching for a LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #10
Oh, give em all guns at the door Cyrano Mar 2016 #11
It Would Look Like A Bar scottie55 Mar 2016 #54
You are evil - those of you who signed this petition!! Laf.La.Dem. Mar 2016 #12
Could you imagine someone popping the cork on a bottle of yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #13
OMG, totally geardaddy Mar 2016 #22
Imagine someone yells, "Fire," and no one can respond due to confusion. L. Coyote Mar 2016 #53
Ha! geardaddy Mar 2016 #64
I think it's a great idea for them but dana_b Mar 2016 #15
Well, if they all had guns, Mr.Bill Mar 2016 #48
I just signed Kaleva Mar 2016 #16
Quicken Loans Arena hosts the quick and the dead Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2016 #17
I share your loathing... 3catwoman3 Mar 2016 #45
I don't understand the goal. Yesterday it said it needed 800 to reach 10,000. valerief Mar 2016 #18
That's how the petitions work. Bad Dog Mar 2016 #24
I see. Thanks. I actually looked to see if having a goal meant anything and couldn't valerief Mar 2016 #36
When we had the petition to Ban Trump from the UK there was an initial goal of 10,000 Bad Dog Mar 2016 #41
At this point, I will be surprised if the GOP convention doesn't turn into violent mayhem. tclambert Mar 2016 #19
What could go wrong? liberal N proud Mar 2016 #20
Only time in my entire life I have been pro open-carry. lark Mar 2016 #23
Xtra large capacity clips for everyone! Assaut rifles!, bring one, bring all! OverBurn Mar 2016 #39
I was going to say that but was afraid of getting alerted on. lark Mar 2016 #43
So true! Love it! C Moon Mar 2016 #25
Please, please, please, please nichomachus Mar 2016 #26
A convention of "well-regulated militia"? Marcuse Mar 2016 #27
Yes! Let Darwinism have its way with these shitstains! SunSeeker Mar 2016 #29
Are you serious? Iliyah Mar 2016 #30
They might have to use their Second Sanity Claws Mar 2016 #32
GOPers are full of it. Iliyah Mar 2016 #34
And I hope they have an open bar too! world wide wally Mar 2016 #33
Open Convention means Open Carry, right? Quasimodem Mar 2016 #37
Signed the petition, in honor of Caroline Previdi, "a lover of freedom" -- klook Mar 2016 #38
It is outrageous they won't allow guns there! Helen Borg Mar 2016 #40
16 signatures short of 15,000 Kaleva Mar 2016 #42
WTF mrmule Mar 2016 #44
GOP Rules State: Ccarmona Mar 2016 #46
You have to pronounce it DOOOOOOOOO-ELLL, too!!! MADem Mar 2016 #47
Zell really did lose his marbles mdbl Mar 2016 #61
That whole exchange reminds me of some conversations on DU, lately! LOL! nt MADem Mar 2016 #63
All problems will be solved within the party. Here is a delegate. keithbvadu2 Mar 2016 #49
yo can we stop scapegoating poor white ppl nt redruddyred Mar 2016 #65
Isn't he doing that all by himself? keithbvadu2 Mar 2016 #68
it's hard because i am firmly ingrained in this culture redruddyred Mar 2016 #69
"excuses" and "idiots" keithbvadu2 Mar 2016 #70
can we agree that at least he is the victim of an inadequate public ed system redruddyred Mar 2016 #72
It's quite possible that he didn't take advantage of an adequate phylny Mar 2016 #77
Much better. keithbvadu2 Mar 2016 #78
unless he lives in new england redruddyred Mar 2016 #85
Maybe. phylny Mar 2016 #86
glad to hear TexAss Bored of Education hasn't ruined everything redruddyred Mar 2016 #87
Oh I think at least 2 fully automatic weapons per person should be required. KentuckyWoman Mar 2016 #50
I signed it. NT Jerry442 Mar 2016 #51
kick MariaThinks Mar 2016 #52
I can picture celebratory gunfire.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #56
K&R! stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #57
This is brilliant! The guns are for their own safety! IronLionZion Mar 2016 #58
Guns & Felons Waitsman Mar 2016 #59
it would be one thing if the cops were any good at getting the right people redruddyred Mar 2016 #66
It's actually up to the Secret Service to decide... CompanyFirstSergeant Mar 2016 #60
For much of the convention the candidates are not present at all truebluegreen Mar 2016 #82
The real cleverness is how the GOP gets such a great excuse for their hypocrisy. keithbvadu2 Mar 2016 #92
It's important that people live to their beliefs. Hypocrisy is not good. So, I signed it! FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #62
i've been sending this one to all my friends redruddyred Mar 2016 #67
They don't need guns at the convention. It's not like they're gonna be in a church. Bucky Mar 2016 #71
Never been to a tea party meeting, I see... jmowreader Mar 2016 #91
This message was self-deleted by its author Bozvotros Mar 2016 #73
More than 22000 Nut Jobs Want to Allow Guns at Repug Convention: Esquire Bozvotros Mar 2016 #74
Exactly. Mike Niendorff Mar 2016 #75
I have no problem when guns are banned at an event as long as ... spin Mar 2016 #76
Drug testing could be part of the law polynomial Mar 2016 #79
The arena is a private venue that doesnt allow weapons. End of story. 7962 Mar 2016 #80
Wizard-level trolling. truebluegreen Mar 2016 #81
There's a flaw in their thinking. Turbineguy Mar 2016 #83
They are hypocrites and cowards Time for change Mar 2016 #84
this petition is catching fire! redruddyred Mar 2016 #88
In all the years of the RNC, this will be epic. It'll be the OK Corral . SummerSnow Mar 2016 #89
 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
31. But alls it takes is ONE good guy with a gun to stop one good guy withou --- something like that..
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:46 PM
Mar 2016

So, if we know there's gonna be riots, lets help the one good guy stop the other good guy.


Packing heat should be a requirement for admission to the convention...No Heat? No See Donny.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
6. Clearly delegates need to arm themselves for those riots Trump promised.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:18 AM
Mar 2016

Riots wouldn't take so long if everyone had guns.

Think of the efficiency.

dchill

(38,444 posts)
7. OMG! EXCELLENT!
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:19 AM
Mar 2016

Are they busted or what!

Of course, any same person can see why we wouldn't want everyone walking around packing heat, but if your position is to guarantee this "right," then you really can't turn around and ban it, can you? If you want all of America to be Dodge City, then Cleveland is Dodge City, too.

groundloop

(11,514 posts)
14. Dodge City (in fact most cities in those days) didn't allow weapons to be carried
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:41 AM
Mar 2016

From what I've read nearly all 'wild west' towns banned the carry of firearms outside of your home because residents didn't want the violence that would be a natural consequence of such 'open carry'. Illegally carrying a firearm resulted in arrest - in other words there was 'gun control' in the wild west, and nobody was complaining about their second amendment rights back then.

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
10. I think they should require everyone to conceal their guns. Is that person reaching for a
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:28 AM
Mar 2016

phone, wallet or gun?

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
13. Could you imagine someone popping the cork on a bottle of
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:40 AM
Mar 2016

champagne, and suddenly guns are a blazing every where inside a very contained space?

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
53. Imagine someone yells, "Fire," and no one can respond due to confusion.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 01:15 AM
Mar 2016

Is there a flame or do I shoot?

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
15. I think it's a great idea for them but
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:54 AM
Mar 2016

I can't see the Secret Service allowing this.

But yes, they want them so bad, let them live with it and see how "secure" they feel!

Mr.Bill

(24,238 posts)
48. Well, if they all had guns,
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:22 PM
Mar 2016

They wouldn't need the Secret Service. Because, you know, it's impossible to be killed if you're a good guy with a gun, right?

Kaleva

(36,250 posts)
16. I just signed
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:23 PM
Mar 2016

It went up by over 50 signatures from the time I went to the site to the time I completed signing.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
18. I don't understand the goal. Yesterday it said it needed 800 to reach 10,000.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:30 PM
Mar 2016

Now it's about 12,000 and says it needs 3,000 to reach 15,000. So when it passes 15,000, will it have to reach 20,000? Are these movable goal posts?

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
24. That's how the petitions work.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:25 PM
Mar 2016

They set a target, then if/when it's reached they set another target. They do it with all petitions not just this one. I'm sure there's a good reason. Maybe it encourages people to sign if they feel they're likely to meet a goal.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
36. I see. Thanks. I actually looked to see if having a goal meant anything and couldn't
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:47 PM
Mar 2016

find a reason, so your explanation makes the most sense.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
41. When we had the petition to Ban Trump from the UK there was an initial goal of 10,000
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 05:09 PM
Mar 2016

That got a response from the government. 100,000 made sure it was considered in parliament, but after that they still kept setting goals. Then as it was already to be debated the more signatures before the debate the better.

lark

(23,061 posts)
23. Only time in my entire life I have been pro open-carry.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:24 PM
Mar 2016

Bring it on Repugs, follow you stated beliefs that everyone should carry guns openly and load up!

lark

(23,061 posts)
43. I was going to say that but was afraid of getting alerted on.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 05:34 PM
Mar 2016

I totally agree with you, though.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
26. Please, please, please, please
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:27 PM
Mar 2016

This is the one thing that could make me watch the convention. They could even put it on PPV and I'd watch it.

Marcuse

(7,446 posts)
27. A convention of "well-regulated militia"?
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:28 PM
Mar 2016

I remember back when "circular firing squad" was a metaphor.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
30. Are you serious?
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:40 PM
Mar 2016

Really huh. That's double standard bullshit. Same with the NRA's headquarters.

What's the problem, doesn't guns = the 2nd Amendment?

Sanity Claws

(21,840 posts)
32. They might have to use their Second
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:10 PM
Mar 2016

Amendment rights in case the Republican establishment wants to nominate someone who did not get most of the primary delegates.
Guns to prevent a brokered convention!

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
34. GOPers are full of it.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:39 PM
Mar 2016

Inasmuch as I dislike them and they would never consider me as a patriot because I do not believe in their crapola ideology, I still wish no harm on them. That said, GOPers (NRA) want everyone to be able to carry a gun anywhere in the USA except to their convention and the NRA's headquarters.

What a load . . .

Quasimodem

(441 posts)
37. Open Convention means Open Carry, right?
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:47 PM
Mar 2016

"Surely 'an armed society is a polite society' -- right?"

I don't know about polite, but a DB is nothing if not peaceable.

klook

(12,151 posts)
38. Signed the petition, in honor of Caroline Previdi, "a lover of freedom" --
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:49 PM
Mar 2016

who was six years old at the time of her murder at Sandy Hook Elementary School, a week before Christmas 2012.

mrmule

(17 posts)
44. WTF
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 05:59 PM
Mar 2016

With a room full of chest puffing, slack jawed, crazies carrying firearms what could possible go wrong.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
46. GOP Rules State:
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 08:10 PM
Mar 2016

"Any disputes about the validity of delegates will be settled by a duel between the delegates in question."

keithbvadu2

(36,660 posts)
68. Isn't he doing that all by himself?
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:11 PM
Mar 2016

Why do you think he is poor?

He has money for recreational drugs.

Those cigarettes are not cheap.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
69. it's hard because i am firmly ingrained in this culture
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:28 PM
Mar 2016

we make excuses for black rioters in baltimore (completely legitimate ones to my mind) why can't we do the same for these idiots?

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
85. unless he lives in new england
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:08 PM
Mar 2016

that's quite unlikely

hell i grew in a big city and was still subjected to "evolution didn't happen, JESUS did"

so much for my aspirations to be a scientist

phylny

(8,368 posts)
86. Maybe.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:58 PM
Mar 2016

I live in a very red, rural county in Virginia, and the school system does teach evolution, not "Jesus did." Plenty of scientists, engineers, and professionals among the students who studied and wanted an education.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
87. glad to hear TexAss Bored of Education hasn't ruined everything
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:20 PM
Mar 2016

i'd also like to point out that most secondary schools are real bad places to learn things, even if it is only jesus. one's academic inclinations are certainly not the deciding factor.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
50. Oh I think at least 2 fully automatic weapons per person should be required.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:57 PM
Mar 2016

I don't see how they can possibly stay safe without that. If everyone brings one gun then one side of their body will be at risk.

Really, why can't the NRA just pull up with a couple tractor trailers full of automatic guns and hand one out at the gates as people come in?

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
58. This is brilliant! The guns are for their own safety!
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:52 AM
Mar 2016

It's a scary world out there and those establishment Republicans don't know when a crazed Trump supporter might attack them!



Waitsman

(38 posts)
59. Guns & Felons
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 09:58 AM
Mar 2016

A convicted felon shot a young man at a gas station for playing his boom box to loud. Orlando Fl area, last week. Another shot his friend over a tax return. We live in an angry country whose citizens know down deep that our laws are designed to benefit and protect the rich from the poor. An angry populace, is a violent populace. Easy access to guns, even felons, is insane. In my county you have to register, and pay fee, for your dog, but guns? The more the better....right wing logic.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
66. it would be one thing if the cops were any good at getting the right people
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:54 PM
Mar 2016

personally i think they suck at their job and as we see repeatedly here at DU: racist af. i wish women would start complaining too because apparently rape and domestic violence are cool because women are liars (or, infrequently, inexplicably attack a guy twice as large as they are further skewing the statistics WOMEN ARE RAPISTS TOO!!11).

i'm all for gun control but can we make sure our criminal justice system works first? my trust in judges and police officers atm hovers right around zero.

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
60. It's actually up to the Secret Service to decide...
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:34 AM
Mar 2016

....how close firearms are allowed to be carried in proximity to the candidates.

And since the Secret Service, under the current Obama administration, has to follow guidelines set up by Obama, it will be OBAMA'S FAULT if they do not allow guns at the convention.

Thanks, Obama.


Seriously, I am pro-2nd Amendment, but I will concede, those that came up with this petition scenario have my respect for their cleverness.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
82. For much of the convention the candidates are not present at all
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:43 AM
Mar 2016

so I assume the Secret Service can't call all the shots (ahem).

 

FighttheFuture

(1,313 posts)
62. It's important that people live to their beliefs. Hypocrisy is not good. So, I signed it!
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

No thanks necessary, GOP! I am happy to help!

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
67. i've been sending this one to all my friends
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:57 PM
Mar 2016

and every time i check back we've got another 5k sigs. seems that it's really catching on!

Response to EarlG (Original post)

Bozvotros

(782 posts)
74. More than 22000 Nut Jobs Want to Allow Guns at Repug Convention: Esquire
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:27 AM
Mar 2016
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a43351/petition-guns-republican-national-convention/

I think it works the other way too. What kind of nut job wouldn't want to see a whole lot of well armed, paranoid and angry Republican pols confront each other? This is a once in four year opportunity to thin their herd. Since they gerrymandered and primaried out their natural predators they have bred like crazed monkeys and are a menace to public safety. You can't swing a confederate flag over your head without hitting one of them. But here's a thought. Lock em in the convention hall with automatic weapons, turn out the lights withTed Nugent anthems at eardrum bleed volume and let God sort it out.

Mike Niendorff

(3,456 posts)
75. Exactly.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:38 AM
Mar 2016

Put your money where your mouth is, if you really believe a bunch of armed crazies make you safer. Let's see it.

MDN

spin

(17,493 posts)
76. I have no problem when guns are banned at an event as long as ...
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:48 AM
Mar 2016

there is adequate security present.

polynomial

(750 posts)
79. Drug testing could be part of the law
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:07 AM
Mar 2016

Since Trump has been appearing irrationally weird to squirrely he should be drug tested. Listen closely and you might notice Trumps nasal cocaine resonance. Definitely a sign of the one percent culture that rant of good health to feel no pain.

That goes for all who participate in the rally. Actually a good idea for all the candidates to show a drug, and alcohol test every month before election.

What’s interesting and fearful is Ohio does not have any background checks for gun sales according to wiki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Ohio


Talk about a Republican goof. So, any Yo-Yo can buy a gun.
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
80. The arena is a private venue that doesnt allow weapons. End of story.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:07 AM
Mar 2016

So the GOP would have the right to tell them differently? I doubt it.
If it was the GOP not allowing weapons, there might be a story there. But this is just silliness

Turbineguy

(37,291 posts)
83. There's a flaw in their thinking.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:44 AM
Mar 2016

To Islamic terrorists the GOP is a powerful recruiting tool. They would not mess that up. Also, IS prefers to kill nice people, so that means the GOP folks have nothing to worry about. Even though they do not like democracy, it will still be happening outside of their conclave.

Time for change

(13,714 posts)
84. They are hypocrites and cowards
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:09 PM
Mar 2016

They aggressively believe in what they consider to be Second Amendment rights as long as it primarily endangers other peoples' lives. But if it might endanger their own lives they are flat out against them.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
88. this petition is catching fire!
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:29 PM
Mar 2016

20,000 sigs in the last two days! (i've been keeping track)

keep up the good work DU!

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