Maddow does the math: A Clinton clinch may be close

[Surya Gayatri]

Rachel Maddow gives viewers a heads up about how close Hillary Clinton is to clinching the Democratic nomination and how an accounting of super delegates combined with the outcomes from Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands could put her over the top sooner than many people realize.

[UMTerp01]

1. Jacob Rascon is such a cutie pie

I love swooning over him do reports. Such a handsome papi.

[SmittynMo]

2. So what part of July 25

do people not understand? And why is MSM in such a hurry?

[OwlinAZ]

9. They've been in a hurry all along.

Why? Hillary's good buddies own the MSM.

[Lil Missy]

20. What part of the number of delegates needed to win do you not understand?

Why are you dragging your feet when the nominee is crystal clear?

This is how it's done - the rules and requirements didn't change - not even for St. Bernie.

[SmittynMo]

21. The nominee is

NOT crystal clear. I never claimed anything changed. It's quite simple. Super delegates vote on July 25. Not before, not after. What part don't YOU understand here?

[Lil Missy]

23. Okie Dokie!!

[MFM008]

29. She needs 65 delegate to get nomination

the rest of the world is not going to sit around until Sanders gets the math.
The minute she hits the number the media is going to say PRESUMPTIVE nominee.
You can sit around until July 2016 or July 2017 the world will not cease to rotate.
The convention is formality.
If Mr. Sanders is NOT in it for himself and his glory he will lead the way to nominate HRC like she
did Barack Obama in 2008.
The way Mr. Sanders is burning his bridges he will be lucky anyone says good morning when he gets back to the senate.

[SmittynMo]

33. Keep on sniffing the glue

It's making you delusional.

65 is an inaccurate number and is way off.

Just keep this in your mind. July 25. Nothing else matters. Be prepared.

[grasswire]

27. Men in black suits with badges. nt

[Lucinda]

3. I didn't see anything about Clinton...it was all Trump protestors for me...? n/t

[Surya Gayatri]

5. The video on YouTube was wrongly titled. I've edited to

embed the right one. Have a look.

[Lucinda]

7. I just caught it on the group thread post! Thanks for correcting the videos!

It will be interesting to see if it happens in NJ or sooner!

[Make7]

4. This video seems to be more in line with the description in the OP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=0&v=7xkZsV7qcIM

[Surya Gayatri]

6. You're right. That video was wrongly titled. I've edited to

embed the right one. Thanks.

[Wibly]

8. Once again

The super delegates are not counted until the convention. They can change anytime up until then, but will not be counted until then.
This "math" is nothing but conjecture and fantasy, and a desperate attempt by the Clinton campaign and their media backers to short circuit due process.
Shameful.

[Surya Gayatri]

10. Uh-huh, and that's precisely why, as of June 7th, Clinton will be referred to

as the "presumptive" nominee, and NOT the "official" nominee.

Not rocket science--just semantics.

Expect a tsunami of super commitments after the CA polls close on Tuesday.

[freedom fighter jh]

14. That a fact?

The primaries are not over yet. California, the big enchilada still has to vote. Even counting superdelegates, it does not make sense to say now that Clinton will be the presumptive nominee then -- unless you are presuming to know how the vote in the June 7 primaries will go.

[Surya Gayatri]

16. Did you even watch Maddow's crystal clear explanation?

Clinton will have the 65 delegates she needs to reach the requisite 2,383 with NJ alone--that's without counting CA at all.

[freedom fighter jh]

18. See what I mean?

You're presuming to know how the vote will go.

[OwlinAZ]

11. That is God's honest truth

Low information voters don't know any better, though.

[Surya Gayatri]

12. So has it ever been, since the supers were instituted back in the 80's--

2008 being the most recent case in point. The vast majority of the supers commit BEFORE the convention.

No conspiracy, no rigging.

[A Simple Game]

25. Oh boy, someone that is good with facts and how to find them. Do us all a favor and look up how

many 2008 "pledged" super delegates switched from Hillary to candidate Obama BEFORE the convention.

[MFM008]

30. Super delegates will NOT

change their votes.
Fun to dream though.

[freedom fighter jh]

13. Superdelegates don't vote until the convention.

Until then they can change their minds. Their votes have not happened yet. Without superdelegates' votes, Hillary is not so close to having the nomination clinched.

Is there any real chance that many superdelegates will change their minds? I certainly hope they will keep their minds open as more information about the candidates becomes available.

See http://thompsontimeline.com/ .

[Enthusiast]

15. Completely unrecommended.

Maddow has been nothing but lies and misinformation since this election started.

[Surya Gayatri]

17. I'll see you, and raise you a Kick and a Rec!

[Plucketeer]

19. Maddow's a con girl

With Rachel - you need to listen really close. REALLY CLOSE. She's honed the art of what she doesn't say to a level of mastery matched by very, very few.

[Enthusiast]

24. She is a bundle of talent. Unfortunately....................

[A Simple Game]

26. Apples and oranges, there was only one Republican candidate at the time

Trump gained enough delegates, there was no one to switch to. There are still two Democratic candidates and neither will likely have enough pledged delegates in the first round of voting at the convention.

Really no comparison at all.

[SmittynMo]

22. About a month ago, she

went all in on HRC. Someone got to her. Prior to that, at least she liked Bernie. Ever since that date, NOT so much. I no longer listen to her bullshit. MSNBC has done a complete 180 degree turnaround. I'm very disappointed.

[Jester Messiah]

28. The only thing she's clinching

Is her ass every time the phone rings, for fear it's the FBI.

[MFM008]

31. 12 days to swallow those sour apples about HRC

[Jester Messiah]

32. Heh, probably not.

The fight will continue, by other means if necessary. But you go ahead and believe what you need to believe.