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tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:28 AM Jun 2016

Clinton Gives Bernie 100% Cover to Go to the Convention [VIDEO]



I think she is right. Everyone should have a chance to cast their ballot and vote for who they think would be the best person for President and who would best be able to defeat the Republican opponent in the General Election.

Hillary Clinton expects EVERYONE to have their say and cast their ballot, and who are we to disappoint!

Washington DC votes on June 14 --
Super Delegates vote end of July --

GOTV!

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Clinton Gives Bernie 100% Cover to Go to the Convention [VIDEO] (Original Post) tomm2thumbs Jun 2016 OP
Do not falter or flag while Bernie is still out there campaigning. grasswire Jun 2016 #1
He needs our donations and our volunteer time, same as always. merrily Jun 2016 #3
Clinton set the precedent - she can't now say 'but that was then, this is now...' tomm2thumbs Jun 2016 #2
Clinton didn't contest the convention. Superdelegates are not going to go against will of voters. Metric System Jun 2016 #4
Glad you think you are psychic. Me, I'll let history take its course and the final results 2 decide highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #5
"Superdelegates are not going to go against will of voters" tomm2thumbs Jun 2016 #9
Even if SDs were re-allocated she'd still be the presumptive nominee. Metric System Jun 2016 #16
Absolute cover. And yet, she and especially her minions will likely twist this every which way. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #6
Hillary enthusiastically endorsed Obama on June 8, 2008, two days pnwmom Jun 2016 #13
K&R avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #7
Hillary's Words...so let's keep going! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #8
Of course ---> Petrushka Jun 2016 #10
Superdelegates do not overturn the will of the majority of pledged delegates pnwmom Jun 2016 #14
Bernie is hurting his own revolution. I think he is very tired. N/T SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2016 #11
Not as tired as I am of seeing Clinton supporters gloating online. That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #17
Hillary gave Obama an enthusiastic, unconditional endorsement on June 7, 2008. pnwmom Jun 2016 #12
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Where is your evidence that Hillary doesn't lead by millions of votes? pnwmom Jun 2016 #19
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Pledged Delegates don't vote until the convention either RockaFowler Jun 2016 #22
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Got it. You have nothing but your suspicions to prove that Hillary didn't pnwmom Jun 2016 #24
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Here's the fact checker from the WA Post explaining why she IS millions of votes ahead, pnwmom Jun 2016 #27
6 whole posts. sounds like a trump talking point. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #26
Winner or not, we still need to keep on the pressure mdbl Jun 2016 #15
We Also Need to Send the Message... kadaholo Jun 2016 #21
kickie, bumpie tomm2thumbs Jun 2016 #28
Bernie wants California recounted Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #29

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
1. Do not falter or flag while Bernie is still out there campaigning.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:30 AM
Jun 2016

He needs our support in order to leverage the movement at the convention.

Don't fail him.

No freaking way.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
3. He needs our donations and our volunteer time, same as always.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:35 AM
Jun 2016

If you want to tell America anything, you will step the fsck up and stay stepped up.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
2. Clinton set the precedent - she can't now say 'but that was then, this is now...'
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:31 AM
Jun 2016

unless you believe she doesn't mean what she says

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
5. Glad you think you are psychic. Me, I'll let history take its course and the final results 2 decide
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:43 AM
Jun 2016

In the meantime, I believe Bernie is inspiring according to all accounts a lot of people that would be best served by the Democratic Party.

But if the Democratic Party really doesn't want their participation, they can keep making them feel excluded.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
9. "Superdelegates are not going to go against will of voters"
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:57 AM
Jun 2016

I'd say the Super Delegates ARE INDEED currently going against the will of the voters, as their polling at this point is not in any proportion to either their state/district voters or the electorate voters as a total --

-- in fact I'd say they are currently proving they INDEED WILL be willing to vote against the will of actual voters


pnwmom

(108,974 posts)
13. Hillary enthusiastically endorsed Obama on June 8, 2008, two days
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:41 AM
Jun 2016

after the primaries. She did not take the fight to the convention.

Here is that speech.

pnwmom

(108,974 posts)
14. Superdelegates do not overturn the will of the majority of pledged delegates
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:43 AM
Jun 2016

and the majority of voters, by three million votes.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
17. Not as tired as I am of seeing Clinton supporters gloating online.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:10 AM
Jun 2016

Clinton hurt her historical (presumptive) nomination with her campaign tactics... and supports too many wars.

pnwmom

(108,974 posts)
12. Hillary gave Obama an enthusiastic, unconditional endorsement on June 7, 2008.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:31 AM
Jun 2016

She did NOT take the fight to the convention -- even though when the primaries were over, she had a slight lead in the popular vote. Obama had only a slight lead in the delegates..

In 2016, Hillary is ahead by hundreds of pledged delegates and millions of votes across the country.

It's time for Bernie to bow out gracefully, as Hillary did in 2008.

Response to pnwmom (Reply #12)

pnwmom

(108,974 posts)
19. Where is your evidence that Hillary doesn't lead by millions of votes?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:56 AM
Jun 2016

Every authoritative media source says she does.

And now she also has the majority of pledged delegates, and the majority of overall delegates.

Bernie has lost in every category.

Response to pnwmom (Reply #19)

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
22. Pledged Delegates don't vote until the convention either
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:44 AM
Jun 2016

This is such a lame excuse.

You see the Super Delegates HAVE ALWAYS been included in the totals.

Just when Bernie's supporters bring it up all of a sudden they don't matter.


NBC Host To Sanders: Your Take On Superdelegates Is A Bit 'Hypocritical'
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/nbc-host-sanders-hypocritical-superdelegates

Response to RockaFowler (Reply #22)

pnwmom

(108,974 posts)
24. Got it. You have nothing but your suspicions to prove that Hillary didn't
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:13 AM
Jun 2016

receive millions more votes than Bernie.

Response to pnwmom (Reply #24)

pnwmom

(108,974 posts)
27. Here's the fact checker from the WA Post explaining why she IS millions of votes ahead,
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:31 PM
Jun 2016

even accounting for those pesky caucus votes.

It was originally written when she was 2.5 votes ahead, and then updated weeks later when she was 2.9 votes ahead. The same logic continues to apply now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/04/06/is-hillary-clinton-really-ahead-of-bernie-sanders-by-2-5-million-votes/

Update, May 19: Adding in the results for Indiana, Guam, West Virginia, Kentucky and Oregon — three of which Sanders won by big margins — reduces Clinton’s margin to 2.9 million votes.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
15. Winner or not, we still need to keep on the pressure
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:52 AM
Jun 2016

to move Clinton the left of center or we'll end up in the same shape or worse, especially in the elections on the state level.

kadaholo

(304 posts)
21. We Also Need to Send the Message...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:41 AM
Jun 2016

that we are totally repulsed by Establishment Politics as Usual that were so blatantly obvious in this Primary Season!

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