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jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
1. Not sleepwalking. Purposely challenging other nations so as to exert our superiority.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 01:12 AM
Jun 2016

Works until it doesn't.

denbot

(9,899 posts)
5. Russia, and before that, the Soviet Union, kept invasion ready forces at its frontier with NATO.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:04 AM
Jun 2016

Nothing has changed, except it's propaganda approach.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
6. Well that may be true but one of those was actually protecting
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:06 AM
Jun 2016

their own countries borders and the other was just a military unit. I am sorry but I lived through the cold war. And it was a war from both sides. IF the USSR had an army in say Cuba? wouldn't we object? Oh wait a minute we did.

Russia is not by any means prefect and they have a fool for a leader who wants to take them backwards but it looks to me as if we are doing the same thing - starting the cold war all over again.

And we actually have two presidential candidates who seem to like war - real war - not cold war. Dooms day is something that cannot be helped. What we are doing is walking right into war without even a hint of objection.

denbot

(9,899 posts)
7. I also served during that time.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jun 2016

We have treaties for good reasons in Europe. To walk away is to guarantee encroachment, in areas Russia feels is part of its buffer zone. We have seen what they are up to in the Ukraine, where does that road lead?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
8. The problem is that every road leads to war when we do not
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:42 PM
Jun 2016

have leaders who can be trusted. I have no wish to sacrifice my 16 year old great grandson to another round of the game.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
10. Not to mention placing the missile shield at their border and open first strike doctrine
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 09:46 PM
Jun 2016

Those are completely new. 4 NATO generals have suggested we could win a first strike nuclear exchange.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
9. Why aren't we bringing Our Military Money Back Home..instead of Challenging Russia
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 07:50 PM
Jun 2016

to a Street Fight? WHY are "Wars thousands of miles away from us more important than Our Own People's Needs?

Haven't we been promoting and fighting "Cold Wars" and "Active Interventions" since the end of WWII?

And, what have we gotten for it but Endless War....Perpetual War that enriches the lives of the Military Industrial Complex.

Bernie Sanders is Correct! "Enough is Enough."

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