A Clinton/Warren Ticket is a No-Brainer

[zebonaut]

and it just might make Sanders supporters more apt to vote for the Ticket

"If you can't have the Fish; Order the Chicken" - Bill Maher

[still_one]

1. I would love it. That would be a revolution. The first Women President and Vice President.

[RoccoR5955]

8. If gender is your main issue, than it would be a revolution

Personally, I believe that there are more issues than the gender issue, and one would have to meet them in order to constitute a revolution. These include, Keystone XL pipeline, fracking, federally funded elections, green energy, and others. Many of which were taken out of the Democratic Party platform. Had these been included, I might agree with you, however to equate gender only as a revolution is rather shallow in my opinion.

[still_one]

10. I believe gender, and their position on the issues represent a revolution.

Incidentally, I suspect if they follow previous patterns, they would most likely want to find someone from a swing state, so this is probably a moot point

[RoccoR5955]

12. Oh?

So then you like that they do not want to ban fracking? Is it that they don't want minimum wage to be $15? Or perhaps it is that they do not want to promote green energy? Maybe you don't like it that they are not against TPP or Keystone XL. If this is your idea of revolution, then so be it. You are entitled. Somehow, though, and I am not meaning to insult the party or candidate, these are not revolutionary ideas, as far as I am concerned, and gender is ONE issue. Only one. There are many issues.

[still_one]

14. On your first two points you are wrong. I am not going to try and convince otherwise, and regarding

TPP and Keystone their positions are not the black and white you appear to believe it so

There is plenty of information out their on the internet, including on Hillary's website, and "on the issues".

I have to run now

[RoccoR5955]

16. Oh?

So protecting the environment, and having trade agreements that are fair to US people are grey to you. Well I guess we can disagree on some things, but as far as I am concerned, if we do not protect the environment there will be NO future. KXL is by no means protecting the environment. Also, if we want more jobs here, we should be getting away from these trade agreements that give the advantage to countries overseas, and take away jobs from American workers.
But hey, if you don't see them in black and white, so be it. If you only use one source for your info, that is your prerogative. I like to get my info from many sources.

[MFM008]

29. sooooo do you think the republicans are better??????????????

While the democrats may not specifically condemn them
the republicans will enthusiastically pursue them.


Also this ticket would be very exciting and perhaps
there are some who wouldn't like it because their candidate didn't win

[RoccoR5955]

31. I never said that

Now did I?
Please do not put words in my mouth.

Some down ticket races may be exciting, but I do not see the presidential race as being exciting. Two corporate candidates running against one another to me is not exciting.

[yallerdawg]

2. Listening to Hillary...

it sounded like Hillary was accommodating Elizabeth, not the feared other way around!

Stronger together!

[jberryhill]

3. I'd rather we not give up a Senate seat

[iandhr]

4. Though I would love it personally...

... Warren might be more influential if she stays in her current post. She will obtain more seniority on the Senate Banking Committee.


She is currently the ranking minority member on the Subcommittee on Economic Policy. If Dems win the Senate she becomes the chair.


http://www.banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/economic-policy


Also, we need to consider that MA has a Republican Governor. And he would appoint her replacement.

[chillfactor]

5. no....we need the Senate seat....

if we hope to regain control of the Senate...

[RoccoR5955]

6. I think that Warren could be more powerful

if she remained in the Senate. There she could launch a filibuster. She could not do that if VP.

[dpatbrown]

17. Surprised.

I will be very surprised if she doesn't pick Brown. With him on the ticket, the Dems win Ohio, and it's over before it starts. I agree with others, let Warren kick butt in the Senate.

[phazed0]

7. Warren would be toothless as VP, so no, not a no-brainer. nt

[mountain grammy]

9. Agree!

[Warpy]

11. No, for a number of reasons

not the least of which is having a Republican governor appoint another Republican to Warren's seat in the Senate. No thanks.

Then think about the racists Obama's election brought out from under their rocks. Those pale in comparison to the rabid misogynists out there and an all female ticket would have no chance of winning. At least with a male on the ticket the rabid woman haters will think Clinton is being supervised by a male and therefore might be barely tolerable as a figurehead. Yes, that is how they think and they are far more numerous than mere racial bigots.

Finally, while Warren might know where the bodies are buried in the banking industry, her overall Keynesian credentials are a bit less clear. Some Sanders supporters might be swayed. Many won't be.

While I'd dearly love to live in a time and place where an all female ticket is seen as perfectly acceptable and judged on the merits of the women instead of their ages, sex, appearance and other irrelevancies, the US in 2016 is neither.

[asiliveandbreathe]

13. All good comments thus far - clinton/warren..sounds great..but - charlie in Mass (Rep)..

(I don't know why my home state elects a rep. gov.) - anyway - I suspect Tim Kaine - simply 1. he has been vetted..(Obama 2012) - 2. has foreign policy experience..3. VA has a Dem Gov...

Liz is much needed in the Senate...

Catch up on Tim Kaine at

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Kaine#United_States_Senate

- or Tom Perez Dept. of Labor - but Sessions would have a field day.....OMG - Dept of Labor - Perez' heritage Dominican Republic...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Perez

The convention is 7/25 - so we have a few more weeks to go - be well all..today was a great day in so many ways..

If I may - UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE BEG - (UNION SLOGAN)

[jalan48]

15. Not gonna happen.

[Gene Debs]

18. Never gonna happen. Elizabeth Warren has been far too antagonistic to Wall Street, and Wall Street

money is the lifeblood of Hillary Clinton's entire political career. No way in hell. The only reason Clinton would even consider Warren as VP would be as a way to de-fang her. Warren isn't that craven, and Clinton doesn't want the headache.

[RBInMaine]

25. Watch it! You are CLOSE to violating the rules. You're comment is hyperbolic and nasty.

Our job is to SUPPORT the Dem nominee and defeat the Trumpenstein.

Warren is not ready to be president. She doesn't bring gender balance nor regional balance. She adds little to ticket except "excitement" and adults know that "excitement" is not the main reason to pick a VP. We need someone READY to be President, and Warren isn't yet ready. She is great, and I think the world of her, but she is better in Senate as a surrogate attack dog. And we don't need her R governor replacing her.

[markj757]

19. If there is one thing that I thank Bernie for more than anything else.....

is that he pulled her back to the left. Because if not for him, Hillary would have ran as a hawkish center-right Democrat and never looked back.

[Geronimoe]

20. It is just campiagn rheteric

means nothing.

[fpublic]

21. Hillary almost laid her cards flat on the table....

... she said, the day after WE celebrate OUR victory, WE will get to work... I'm paraphrasing but the WE/OUR pronouns were in the same sentence where she said Elizabeth and I.

I bet this moved the odds-makers for the VP pick in Vegas a few points.

Hillary's speech was a definitive pivot towards the democratic wing of the Democratic party, if not paying the dues exacted to get Warren's superstar status on to the ticket, at least entreating Sanders' millions of supporters. Her promises regarding infrastructure, trade, corporate regulation, taxes, student debt, Wall Street seem to have left her husband and the DLC behind at the Third Way Station.

This shows her political competence. But because I now see my previous optimism for her husband and then for Obama as cool aid intoxication, I am not too excited this time around.

My cynicism says that unless HRC really acts on these progressive promises, I agree that EW would do better to stay in the Senate. Maybe EW has vetted HRC and believes HRC will come thru? Optimism of that sort is often dashed by reality.

[Pharaoh]

22. If anything

it would gag her from doing any more damage to wall street. And the true progressives would not be impressed by that ticket.

[markj757]

24. Regarding Hillary choosing Warren, I think this is her first big test as our future President.....

will she play it safe and choose Tim Kaine or some other safe choice, or will she make a bold and powerful VP selection like Warren that says to the liberal base of the Democrat party, I will not forget why I almost lost this primary. And I will not forget the passion behind the voices of the people who gave it there all to elect Bernie Sanders as President. I hope Hillary rises to the occasion and surprises us all, with one of the most progressive and bold liberal tickets in American history. I hope she gives me more of a reason to vote for her besides voting against Donald Trump. I hope she reminds every nation on this earth, that America leads the world, not just because of our military might; but because America has become in spite of its history, a beacon of light for diversity, civil rights, social and economic justice, and the greatest protector of human dignity and freedom the world has ever known.

[RBInMaine]

26. "Bold" isn't always SMART. Warren brings little to table in the big picture. Kaine is better for VP.

[floriduck]

27. I think I misread your title. I thought only those with no brains would support it.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

28. no no no

she needs to stay in the senate

and - hill does not need the left wing of the party

[MFM008]

30. she will pick who she wants

and those of us that support democrats will get on board.
If you don't .............

Rumpelforeskin has a golf course for you.
What???? you say you cant afford it?
Neither can the rest of us.....................

[SoLeftIAmRight]

33. no no no

she will pick who she needs

If you don't ............. LOL

[HereSince1628]

32. As a Sanders supporter I winced at the way "old-white man" description was applied

to him over the past year. Those were low blows, but I am not sure how significant they are to the national political mood.

I don't think the Clinton campaign or Clinton supporters ever recognized that phrasing as a significant problem. Consequently, I wouldn't expect it to be seen as a crack needing any attention.

White men still define the political opposition's base and white man still applies perfectly to Trump. White men as in 'white patriarchy' are not only iconic historical opponents to much of Clinton's coalition, white patriarchy is often seen as near if not the root cause of social inequality. White men are also painted as the common denominator in the problem with guns and mass murder (although the numbers around gun violence provide some actuarial challenges to that perspective).

Making clear distinctions with the opponent is an often useful and common tactic in politics which would be quietly emphasized in the choice of Warren as vp.

In a more traditional frame of mind, a Clinton/Warren ticket does little to appeal to a national electorate in the usual ethno-geographic sense.

But with Trump as an icon of what's wrong with men on the right as the main opposition, traditional demands are muted. At this moment there doesn't seem to be any important ethno-geographic group clamoring for recognition and representation on the ticket, while Warren is a vigorous and convincing opponent to all that Trump represents.

We'll have to wait to see how the numbers work in the polls for the test run. If the numbers still look good going into late July, it could well happen.