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Christiane Amanpour: Media's Existential Crisis In Its 'Post-Truth' World (Original Post) ancianita Nov 2016 OP
K&R! betsuni Nov 2016 #1
Important speech, impressive speech, intelligent speech Equinox Moon Nov 2016 #2
She is Seemingly Unaware liberalmike27 Nov 2016 #3
I think she's aware that people are starved for hard truths behind the 'officials' narratives. ancianita Nov 2016 #6
"The Dangerous Rise of the Far Right," liberalmike27 Nov 2016 #4
Brava, Ms. Amanpour! demmiblue Nov 2016 #5
Thanks! It's great stuff! ancianita Nov 2016 #7

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
2. Important speech, impressive speech, intelligent speech
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 10:38 AM
Nov 2016

Trumpian voters, this is how an intelligent person sounds. They use big words crafted into sentences that need to be unpacked.

I enjoyed listening to her, I just wish she would have paused more and spoke slower. It was a lot to take in. I wonder why she (and others) were not able to impact what the M$M and cable did during the hellacious campaign coverage? She is giving a speech explaining full understanding of the peril.

liberalmike27

(2,479 posts)
3. She is Seemingly Unaware
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:43 PM
Nov 2016

The media represents the views of the ruling class. Were any given journalist to follow her instructions, they'd be fired, as so many on MSNBC have lost their jobs, for getting too close to the truth, for saying "money in politics," was the problem, or questioning the Iraq War, as Donahue fell victim to. If you regularly write "liberal" articles, which in essence is another way to say "true" articles, you'll either find resistance in your editorial staff, and they won't publish them, or you'll eventually just be let-go, because they don't view your content as poignant (to the ideas of the rich).

Everyone here needs to realize, our media is simply the left and right, the rich feel like they want you to see. You won't see the revolution, or revolutionary ideas, not if it isn't on their list of allowed topics. There are filters. You can't speak badly about any advertiser, no matter how true. You can't speak ill of war without end, or huge budgets, and NEVER mention it as a problem with debt. You can't call for a new Fairness Doctrine, because ridding the media of that responsibility was what actually handed the media to the rich. Now they don't even have to "try" to be fair, don't even need to maintain the facade of credibility.

The truth is, once freed from fairness in 1987, they didn't even bother to put on a fake left, until around the early 2000's, when MSNBC seemed to have the idea that we might need at least "some" resistance to the extreme right direction of everything. So began, the fake left. It isn't left through and through, but by God they'll support Abortion--they'll rail against guns, and for gay people. They'll support immigration. The things that affect Bread & Butter issues?--better not. There is a longer list, but generally our media is kept to the right by Chomsky's media filters. If you want to know them, Google them.

It's why all the hoopla of "fake news" and the constant complaining about "social media" as they feel their power to propagandize, slipping away, as people fall away from their viewership. I used to record and watch at least a couple of MSNBC shows. But one by one, my favorites, those who told the truth most often fell away. Olbermann, Cenk Uygur, Dylan, and I just finally gave up on Rachel, as she proved her establishment bias, during this election, though she clearly knew which "third rail" issues to avoid, before the election ever happened. But she was my one remaining worthy watch.

What is left, on television anyway, is censured news, reported by the rich, edited and produce by even richer people, who are hired by even richer people, who own these news outlets. They are anything but liberal, though there is a "small" range of difference, well to the right on the spectrum.

ancianita

(35,933 posts)
6. I think she's aware that people are starved for hard truths behind the 'officials' narratives.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 04:18 PM
Nov 2016

I can't disagree with your historical take on media, since I lived through those times, too. We probably all hoped that fairness and truth would last, but insofar as news became business, business values dictated news stories.

Thanks for your post. It's a fine delineation of the informational problems we face. I thought Amanpour addressed the higher goals of journalists as a guide for breaking through the fakery we face.

liberalmike27

(2,479 posts)
4. "The Dangerous Rise of the Far Right,"
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:54 PM
Nov 2016

Is exactly a product of our media ignoring the far left.

It is essentially a tug-of-war, with no one pulling from the left. I listen to and read a few lefty sites now, and they're pretty much always begging for money. You can listen to some con-servative bloviating, or a neo liberal democrat on at least one television channel or two. But to actually find liberal stuff, you're going to have to put up with them constantly begging for money, from liberals who can scarcely afford to pony it up.

That is the status of our "liberal" media, become beggars, to the cause, as it's been shoved out of the corporate media, as there is no law saying they have to cover it anymore, or for that matter, to even be honest.

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