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The genius who is cleaning our oceans... (Original Post) pbmus Dec 2016 OP
Bless him! lillypaddle Dec 2016 #1
Another huckster n2doc Dec 2016 #2
Do you have an idea about how to clean up the sea of plastic pbmus Dec 2016 #8
I know what he is proposing won't work n2doc Dec 2016 #9
Transport in small pieces , as they will be shredded upon coming pbmus Dec 2016 #10
Transport large ship n2doc Dec 2016 #11
There is one working in the North Sea. pbmus Dec 2016 #12
Nope n2doc Dec 2016 #13
Ok, working out the bugs... pbmus Dec 2016 #14
Already gave you mine n/t n2doc Dec 2016 #15
That's a long wait... pbmus Dec 2016 #16
Thank you, pbmus. democrank Dec 2016 #3
What prevents water craft from damaging it. rickford66 Dec 2016 #4
If this works, it will be wonderful! N/T potone Dec 2016 #5
How would it pay for itself? progressoid Dec 2016 #6
Is he legit? If so, shouldn't we encourage sponsorship or partnerships w/ Nations or the UN. downeastdaniel Dec 2016 #7

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
9. I know what he is proposing won't work
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 02:07 PM
Dec 2016

I work on plastic pollution in the ocean, at least part of the time. The problem needs to be stopped at the source- banning plastic bags, cups, and other unnecessary products. Requiring that plastics made for consumer items that may end up in the trash be made of biodegradable (and truly quickly biodegradable) materials. It will require changes in our lifestyle. Eventually what is out there will break down but we have to stop replenishing it.

The really big problem is micro plastics, especially micro fibers. They are everywhere and in everything.

People don't have an idea of the scale of the problem. The North Pacific garbage patch is the size of Texas. It is in waters 4000 meters deep. Think about trying to moor such a device in waters that deep, and imagine something the size of a farmer's field making a dent on a patch that size. Imagine trying to transport all that collected plastic. It doesn't work.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
10. Transport in small pieces , as they will be shredded upon coming
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 02:11 PM
Dec 2016

On the ship, and then transported to a processor..there is no mooring ?

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
11. Transport large ship
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 02:28 PM
Dec 2016

Again, you don't appreciate the scale of the problem. It takes weeks just to get out there from the nearest coastlines. Either lots of fuel burning, or very slow wind power. And we are talking about 7 million tons, and growing.

If you do not moor it, it will get swept around, and plastics will not get swept to it. It needs to be in place to function correctly.

I haven't even gotten to the issue of what the large (30+ft) waves in that region would do to his device. There is a reason why it is a computer render.

People want to believe in magic. That is why so many voted for Trump. Not accusing yourself of that!, but it is human nature.

http://garbagepatch.net/greatpacificoceangarbagepatchfacts/

progressoid

(49,978 posts)
6. How would it pay for itself?
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 10:23 AM
Dec 2016

IIRC, there isn't a lot of money in plastic recycling. And doing it on the ocean would be even more expensive.

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